CLAREMONT TO PEN 'END' OF THE X-MEN

[Eric J. Moreels]

X-Treme X-Men writer Chris Claremont recently revealed to visitors of his Cordially Chris (http://x-mencomics.com/xfan/forums//showthread.php?s=&threadid=244) forum here at X-Fan that he will be chronicling the final adventure of the X-Men in a new one-shot entitled X-Men: The End.

The End is a series of one-shots that tell a future tale of the last days of the starring characters. Other planned one-shots will reportedly star the Hulk (by the fan-favourite Hulk team of writer Peter David and artist Dale Keown) and Spider-Man.

Several rumours have recently been circulating online about the project, which is apparently the Last Days Of The X-Men project that Marvel once attempted to woo John Byrne into drawing. Artist Paul Smith has also been rumoured to be involved, though according to one source that's not a possibility.

Claremont also updated fans on his other projects, including some for Marvel's Distinguished Competition.

"Well, I'm getting back to work on a new novel," posted Claremont. "And as I currently understand, MekaniX has been pushed back to a Fall launch, as part of a major promotion Marvel plans to do in October. Which, surprisingly enough, will coincide with the launch of the next major arc in X-Treme - and as a consequence, the lives of mutant-kind, and the team, will be forever changed. (Yes, I know you hear that every flipping month but this time we really mean it!) Culminating in a positively huge 24th issue / second anniversary x-travaganza! Of course, the deal with MekaniX is that, if the numbers are good, it goes for a second arc and possibly as an ongoing series."

"I have proposals in the pipeline for some limited-run series, some one-offs, a graphic novel, and of course X-Men: The End. As for what I'm doing Uptown, I just finished a Batman short-story with artist Steve Rude (inks by Mark Buckingham), which pits Bruce Wayne against the most challenging foes he's ever faced, in a story where almost every scene is taken from Real Life! (shades of Law & Order!) More than that, I dare not say. But the story sure looks pretty! And I'm doing a Justice League 6-parter, which is also a lot of fun."

[ManolisV]

drools all over the thread

vootie! can't wait :p

but, hasn't he already shown the end of the xmen with days of future past? well, at least we can finally see what his plans were for the death of kitty pryde as he had heralded way back :D

[Neolithic]

I don't understand the X-Men: The End book? Yet another attempt for Marvel to cash in with the "Whatever we print will sell." ideology?

[distortion]

this headline scared the crap outta me... i thought it meant the end of x-treme. well, good thing i read the article. anyway, the "the end" thing is kindof a cool idea, in fact i even came up with it at some point (i'm not trying to take credit for it, but it did cross my mind as something that could be done), but i can't really see as a something i'd buy, so i doubt i'll be buying this, but we'll see.

but hey, what the deal with all these one-shots and mini's. why not just bring back "marvel comics presents" and "what if".

[Tan K.]

I might actually have to pick up Batman and JLA. Damn....first Gen13 and now these two. :read:

[mistersinister]

Although I love Claremont and I'm quite sure that X-Men:The End will be a good read, it seems curious to me for 2 reasons:

1) Why would Marvel let Claremont write the last X-Men story when he appears to currently be the low-man-on-the-core-books-totem-pole?

2) Why set-up such a future continuity structure for the sake of the sales of one special issue?

For example, if Iceman is featured in the one-shot, then nobody can kill him off or do anything radical with the character in the meantime.

I guess they can always spin it as "one possible future", but still, it seems kind of weird.

[ManolisV]

it's a what if book mrsinister, marvel no longer believes in continuity, remember?

and cc isn;t the lowman in the totem of the core titles! (casey is though :p)

[blue]

I am exciting about Claremont writes x-men:the end!!!He is the only one can write this project because he writes x-men for decades(as peter david for hulk)

[atxbomber]

I wonder if this is going to be anything like "The Last Avengers Story" from a few years back?

Anyway, sounds pretty cool so far.

The Hulk one sounds like it could be excellent too.

[omegastorm]

cool, I cant wait to read this story. I hope that it is a strong character piece with a little less fighting.

[atxbomber]

Originally posted by mistersinister
I guess they can always spin it as "one possible future", but still, it seems kind of weird.

Why?

Marvel's been telling alternate future stories for decades (Hell, most of them came from the X-Men and Chris Claremont ;))

In fact in the case of the Hulk, some really great moments came from the alternate future story where Hulk became Maestro.

[Ken Boehm]

At first I thought X-Treme was canned, but then logic kicked in.

I would love to see Paul Smith do the art, or Andy Kubert (Jim Lee is too far fetched)

[Chris Eight]

can't wait, it should be great, Chris claremont just keeps coming up with the good. :) :)

[FabioX]

Originally posted by mistersinister
Although I love Claremont and I'm quite sure that X-Men:The End will be a good read, it seems curious to me for 2 reasons:
1) Why would Marvel let Claremont write the last X-Men story when he appears to currently be the low-man-on-the-core-books-totem-pole?

Because he's Mr. X-Men, the one and only X-MEN WRITER .... as Peter David is the only Hulk writer (IMHO ... as usual) and maybe because Marvel (a.k.a. Joe Quesada & Bill Jemas) are understanding that this good 'ol Big Santa Claus like belly writer is doin' a damn good job in pair with its acid pal Grant Morrison.

2) Why set-up such a future continuity structure for the sake of the sales of one special issue?

I think that the continuity statements will be settled in a way that will not influence the current writers ..... and ... anyway .... there's the classic "What If" - "Bobby Ewing" solution ..... :clown:

[ZOD]

Originally posted by Cyke1964
Jim Lee is too far fetched

Jim couldn't do it anyway. He's DC exclusive. I think Andy Kubert with the digital painter who did Origin with him would be extremely awesome.

ZOD ;)

[TristenMagnus]

Uh, so the end is for real .... does that mean that it all has to end that way? I read the article, and immediately I felt this depressed knot in my stomach.... Very depressing that there will be an end story. I'll stll check it out .. but.. it still hurts to think about it .... :(

[Brian Wilkinson]

I think this could be a truly great thing if it is done right... it's too bad that it's a one-shot though as I find it hard to believe they could wrap things up in one issue ;)

I'd like to see the end being the beginning of a golden age with all but a few left alive to guide the next generation into peace and happiness. Leave it uncertain, but optimistic.

[chamber1]

I probably buy some of these one shots since it is a very interesting concept. So far the Hulk one has a good creative team. I'm not a big fan of Claremont but he probably is the best pick for this. Hopefully the art will be really good.

[Eric J. Moreels]

Originally posted by ManolisV
and cc isn;t the lowman in the totem of the core titles! (casey is though :p)

Ouch.

A bit overly harsh, don't you think?

[xtremexman]

I don't quite know how I feel about X Men: The End, because even though I love Chris Claremont's work I am adamant against buying one shots. Still, the concept seems interesting enough. As far as MekaniX is concerned, I still don't know a whole lot about the project. I do know that it stars Kitty Pryde, a.k.a. Shadowcat, but is that all?

I mean, is she the only one? I don't think so. It has been reported that Shadowcat will return in the pages of X Treme X Men along with Lockheed, that little purple dragon that she always used to have with her. Not only that, but Forge, Moonstar, and Wolfsbane have also been scheduled to make their prescence known. I wonder if this has anything to do with MekaniX, as the title seems to imply a fair amount of technology is to be involved.

If that is true, that would mean Forge and his team would be in the book as well, not just Shadowcat and Lockheed. And the fact that the outcome of MekaniX could affect what goes on in X Treme just intrigues me even more.

[HulkBoy]

Hey i think this thing could be good if marvel foreshadows it into the regular series. Plus your getting the greatest teams on these books. I can't wait for the The Last: Hulk or The Last: Spider-Man. Dare i say it? I'm even going to check out The Last: X-Men. God i hope they do a whole series of these things like they're doing with Jeff Loeb and Tim Sale. This could be something new for Marvel to play with as well.

Oh god it just hit me didn't marvel go crazy the last time with the introduction of Bishop?

[Magic Rabbit]

Excuse my pessimism here. I’m sorry but I hate these “final future” stories. I think that it’s limiting in the fact that there maybe other writers out there who want to create new X-men and new stories that tie into other arcs or play prominent roles in the books. What if Morrison, or Austen, creates a couple of great new X-men? And they become extremely important to arcs in New or Uncanny? What happens then? You can’t suddenly add these new characters into a “final future” storyline after the fact, can you? And the way some of this “final future” stuff has been carried out is pretty heavy-handed and causes some problems later on: think the whole Rachael Summer saga and all the conflicting plotlines that created. Continuity over at the X universe is shaky at best, adding more corpses to the funeral pyre is only making more smoke - smoke that some poor, hapless, potential X writer will have to restructure later in order to write the stories that he/she wants to write when they get a chance to work on the X-men.

I didn’t get the impression that this was a “What If” type of story. If it is, then forget everything I said up top. Making this a potential story is far different than making into part of the X-men 616 continuity lore.

Maybe CC can pull it off and make a really fantastic story, but I just feel that any death story is merely playing on the emotions of your audience. That can be a good thing, but it can also be a bad thing.

But that’s all just my opinion, as humble as it may be.

Magic Rabbit

“Existential void where prohibited.” - Crow T. Robot

[TristenMagnus]

Magic Rabbitt, you just expressed in words what I felt when I heard about this. Thank you. ;)

[BlueKing]

IMHO, as long as they tell a great story doing it, then i'm all for it ;)

it doesnt have to be grounded in actual continuity. since this is a future thing, then it'll be reminiscent of The Last AVengers Story, or Hulk's Future Imperfect, or maybe these concepts are a spin-off from an idea inspired by the Millennial Visions oneshots.

peace.

[Steelerfan]

I eagerly look forward to it. Perhaps we'll get to see what was initially envisioned for "THE TWELVE" way back in early X Factor

Also to make it truly special Marvel should get Art Adams and Terry Austin to do the pencils and inks.

[VolcanoRob]

Claremont on the Justice League? I'm definitely in.

[UndeadX]

Do you really think this will last? I mean do you think editorial control will make sure that "The End" for each charater will end up that way? This doesnt sound like to good of an idea to me. But i would like to see how Wolverine would die, and if Gambit and Rouge ever get together. But if this is the real end, then why should we care anymore?

[KidX]

ROCK ON!
I am sooooo jazzed for this!

[gothix]

This sounds cool. I'm really excited about the Hulk : The End. As for the X-Men one I think maybe they should get John Romita Jr. I really liked the way he worked with Claremont on their first run of the book.

This is scary but it looks like CC will have me buying JLA. The only things of bought from DC in the last few years are Preacher and some Batmans.

[LoganBane]

As far as I'm concerned what happens now will have little to no effect later. Look how many times we were all certian about something and found out it was something completely diff? Psylocke/Revanc(sp?) anyone? As long as I'm entertained, I don't care what they say's going to happen.

[Stormfreak]

Originally posted by Neolithic
I don't understand the X-Men: The End book? Yet another attempt for Marvel to cash in with the "Whatever we print will sell." ideology?

Couldn't have said it better myself.

[Seventh Sense]

I'm definitely in. This could be very good or very bad. Of course, I'm hoping for the best.;)

[number1958]

Originally posted by mistersinister
Although I love Claremont and I'm quite sure that X-Men:The End will be a good read, it seems curious to me for 2 reasons:

1) Why would Marvel let Claremont write the last X-Men story when he appears to currently be the low-man-on-the-core-books-totem-pole?


For one thing, when this book was first proposed, he was the only man on the totem pole, and part of the idea was to get Chris and John Byrne to work together again. Just because John wouldn't do the book, there was no reason to take Chris off the book.
As for low-man-on-the-core-books, I'm not sure that's the case. Marvel did give him his own book, and that's a major accomplishment in the industry these days.

As a side note, I wanted to mention that the rumor regarding Paul Smith came from Chris on the old message boards. Here's the quote:

"2.) I'd love to work with Paul Smith. Actually, Bobbie Chase contacted him about working on my proposed "Last X-Men" project but since her abrupt and unexpected departure all that is in Limbo. So anything's possible. "

But from what I hear, Paul has a lot of other things on his schedule these days. Did I mention I'd like to see Dave Cockrum do the book? He kicked things off with Chris, it would be interesting to see him end it all.

[Neolithic]

Does Stan Lee doing any thing anymore? Would like to see him do something as a last testament to comicdom.

[Synch]

Well I have mix feelings about this project.

First of all I hope this is not the sterotype future story where we get the chance to read about the characters we love die in a story where everyone they have ever cared about is dead and they are alone and you know the usual.

I just don't like stories that protray the "end" for characters because it is always dark and depressing with the character being unhappy nad dying at the end.


This obviously takes place out of continuity because what if say in the X-men:The End,Storm for example is made a Goddess that never saw the home X-men team again.

Wouldn't that prevent Claremont from having her to meet the home team of X-men?

You guys get it,will this story have any effect in main continuity or does this actually reflect what will actually happen to the characters.

[ZOD]

It seems that everybody is taking this to actually be the "Last X-Men" story. DC did the same thing with "The Last Superman Story" (as chronicled in "Whatever Happened to the Man of Tomorrow" GN). The story was pure apocrypha, as Alan Moore called it "An imaginary tale". It was just a fun project to do before John Byrne came on and did the revamp. That was back in the late eighties and through out the years there was so many storyline changes that there is no way that story could actually be "The Last Superman Story", but back in the late eighties it very well could have been. So maybe when this story comes out it could be taken as the last tale of the X-Men, but within the next 5 to 10 years there will be story changes that would prove this story to just be an imaginary tale. So just lay back, relax and enjoy the story.

ZOD ;)

[Askanison]

I dont know if this is the right place to ask the question but did someone say that Chis Claremont was going to be doing GEN13?

[xchild]

do you think there will be a story featuring Jubilee? Chris did create her (right? am i right?) and she is rumored to be one of the last x-men. i think it'd be hella tight to see a grown up jubilee leading a team of x-men - the LAST team of x-men. then again, if it's an end of x-men it could be a story that takes place 100 years in the future, but i think that'd be lame. it'd be a bunch of x-men we don't know... and wolverine.

[xtremexman]

Originally posted by HulkBoy
Hey i think this thing could be good if marvel foreshadows it into the regular series. Plus your getting the greatest teams on these books. I can't wait for the The Last: Hulk or The Last: Spider-Man. Dare i say it? I'm even going to check out The Last: X-Men. God i hope they do a whole series of these things like they're doing with Jeff Loeb and Tim Sale. This could be something new for Marvel to play with as well.

Oh god it just hit me didn't marvel go crazy the last time with the introduction of Bishop?

I aggree with you 100%. I believe this is going to be good for Marvel in a lot of ways. Fans will be able to take a peek at what would be the end for some of their favorite heroes, and perhaps their even least favorite villains. The concept is interesting enough to look into, and I can't wait to hear what other "Last" projects are in the works. If I am not mistaken, The Last: Hulk is the first of the series.

I just got Wizard #126, and it is the first one to be mentioned so far.

[Eric J. Moreels]

Just to clarify, the one-shots are called "The End", not "The Last".

[KidX]

Yep, Claremont did indeed create Jubilee.

[Tan K.]

Originally posted by Magic Rabbit
Excuse my pessimism here. I’m sorry but I hate these “final future” stories. I think that it’s limiting in the fact that there maybe other writers out there who want to create new X-men and new stories that tie into other arcs or play prominent roles in the books. What if Morrison, or Austen, creates a couple of great new X-men? And they become extremely important to arcs in New or Uncanny? What happens then? You can’t suddenly add these new characters into a “final future” storyline after the fact, can you? And the way some of this “final future” stuff has been carried out is pretty heavy-handed and causes some problems later on: think the whole Rachael Summer saga and all the conflicting plotlines that created. Continuity over at the X universe is shaky at best, adding more corpses to the funeral pyre is only making more smoke - smoke that some poor, hapless, potential X writer will have to restructure later in order to write the stories that he/she wants to write when they get a chance to work on the X-men.

I didn’t get the impression that this was a “What If” type of story. If it is, then forget everything I said up top. Making this a potential story is far different than making into part of the X-men 616 continuity lore.

Maybe CC can pull it off and make a really fantastic story, but I just feel that any death story is merely playing on the emotions of your audience. That can be a good thing, but it can also be a bad thing.

But that’s all just my opinion, as humble as it may be.

Magic Rabbit

“Existential void where prohibited.” - Crow T. Robot


I think it'll be along the same lines as the EarthX. Stories that are potential futuristic happenings. It may be in the 616 setting or not.

Just like w/ Future Past there are characters that maybe should have been included or excluded, but that's the nature of writing without the benefit of seeing into the future.

[Jim Lemoine]

While I like the idea of doing a project like this (as long as we keep in mind that this is a POSSIBLE future, and that nothing's set in stone), I do have one misgiving.

Chris is a good writer, and in the past he's been a simply awesome writer. However, one problem I've always noticed is his tendency to play favorites. The ones he likes are always front-and-center in the storyline, and he makes everybody in the Marvel U. love them. The ones that are lesser favorites tend to get ignored (for an example of this syndrome, count the number of appearances of Storm vs. the number of Nightcrawler appearances in X-Men 150-210).

I think he should write this book, he's earned the right. On the other hand, I hope he won't ignore or downplay important mutant characters who might not be his favorites... like Angel or Cannonball or the aforementioned Nightcrawler.

Am I the only one kinda worried about this?

[Magic Rabbit]

Originally posted by NiXoN
While I like the idea of doing a project like this (as long as we keep in mind that this is a POSSIBLE future, and that nothing's set in stone), ...

Yeah, I’d feel less hesitant about the whole thing if it really is presented as a possible future as appose to a definite one.

Originally posted by NiXoN
... I do have one misgiving.

Chris is a good writer, and in the past he's been a simply awesome writer. However, one problem I've always noticed is his tendency to play favorites. The ones he likes are always front-and-center in the storyline, and he makes everybody in the Marvel U. love them. The ones that are lesser favorites tend to get ignored (for an example of this syndrome, count the number of appearances of Storm vs. the number of Nightcrawler appearances in X-Men 150-210).

I think he should write this book, he's earned the right. On the other hand, I hope he won't ignore or downplay important mutant characters who might not be his favorites... like Angel or Cannonball or the aforementioned Nightcrawler.

Am I the only one kinda worried about this?

No Nixon you’re not the only one. I would hate to have to see the spotlight on only a few favorite characters at the expense of the others (especially since CC’s favorites are not mine). I mean Storm’s cool and all but she isn’t Nightcrawler. ;)

I’ll keep my fingers crossed.

Magic Rabbit

“Existential void where prohibited.” - Crow T. Robot

[xtremexman]

Originally posted by X-Fan
Just to clarify, the one-shots are called "The End", not "The Last".

Sorry. My mistake. I didn't mean to touch a nerve. But let me ask you a question - does it really matter what they are called? I mean, sure they may be entitled "The End", but he basic format is this - the "last" Hulk story, the "last" Spider Man story, the "last" X Men story, etc. See what I mean?

[deanna]

I agree with what whiterabbit said eariler--all this "the end" business makes me really depressed.
Plus, I have always held the theory that it's not the end that's important, it's how the characters get there that's important. I mean, think about just watching the last ten minutes of the Matrix, or Star Wars, or even Lord of the Rings for that matter. Some of the best stuff happens long before you get to the end of those movies. This reminds me of a quote I once heard--"It's nice to have an end to journey towards, but in the end, it is the journey that matters."
Like my comments are going to make Marvel stop this project, but I feel that they should just let the x-books go. Don't start doing all these mini-series and one-shots again. They just hacked down everything last year, now they're building it all up again. This will definately be a series I'll be skipping. I'll stick with the current storylines of the books, rather than worrying about how everything is going to go down in the end.

[xtremexman]

Originally posted by deanna
I agree with what whiterabbit said eariler--all this "the end" business makes me really depressed.
Plus, I have always held the theory that it's not the end that's important, it's how the characters get there that's important. I mean, think about just watching the last ten minutes of the Matrix, or Star Wars, or even Lord of the Rings for that matter. Some of the best stuff happens long before you get to the end of those movies. This reminds me of a quote I once heard--"It's nice to have an end to journey towards, but in the end, it is the journey that matters."
Like my comments are going to make Marvel stop this project, but I feel that they should just let the x-books go. Don't start doing all these mini-series and one-shots again. They just hacked down everything last year, now they're building it all up again. This will definately be a series I'll be skipping. I'll stick with the current storylines of the books, rather than worrying about how everything is going to go down in the end.

You are a very wise individual. I can tell that about you. It is a very easy characteristic trait to spot. All you have to do is look for it. I am never worried how things are going to turn out in the end, but rather what is going to happen on the way there.

It just seems awfully silly to be worried about an outcome that hasn't even occurred yet. The ends may justify the means, but what is going to justify the way to get to those ends? Let the journey take it's own course, and just be happy tagging along for the ride. This new series of one shots that Marvel is going to come out with is going to be a refreshing if not cryptic look into the future, and I can't wait until they arrive on newsstands everywhere. It sure would be interesting to see how it would all end, if it would ever end.

[nmoc x]

[QUOTE]Originally posted by mistersinister
[B]Although I love Claremont and I'm quite sure that X-Men:The End will be a good read, it seems curious to me for 2 reasons:

1) Why would Marvel let Claremont write the last X-Men story when he appears to currently be the low-man-on-the-core-books-totem-pole?

Well, I think that´s because he is most notable X-Men writer, independent from what he is doing now, like it or not, the X-Men is that big concept, the best selling comics out there, for almost 30 years, thanks to Claremont, he creates what the X-Men are today, as much as you like the other writers, and dislike him.

[Doop]

Originally posted by nmoc x
[QUOTE]Originally posted by mistersinister
[B]Well, I think that´s because he is most notable X-Men writer, independent from what he is doing now, like it or not, the X-Men is that big concept, the best selling comics out there, for almost 30 years, thanks to Claremont, he creates what the X-Men are today, as much as you like the other writers, and dislike him.

I agree--in fact, I think Marvel's trying to reunite the exact writer/artist teams from each books' "prime" years to do these Last stories.

[xtremexman]

Originally posted by nmoc x
[QUOTE]Originally posted by mistersinister
[B]Although I love Claremont and I'm quite sure that X-Men:The End will be a good read, it seems curious to me for 2 reasons:

1) Why would Marvel let Claremont write the last X-Men story when he appears to currently be the low-man-on-the-core-books-totem-pole?

Well, I think that´s because he is most notable X-Men writer, independent from what he is doing now, like it or not, the X-Men is that big concept, the best selling comics out there, for almost 30 years, thanks to Claremont, he creates what the X-Men are today, as much as you like the other writers, and dislike him.

If I may be allowed to add on to that, I will proceed in doing so now. Claremont, in my view, is one of the greatest X Men writers of all time. Correct me if I am wrong, but didn't he have the longest run on X Men to date? I just wanted to check and make sure. During that time, he created several memerable characters and told so many fascinating stories.

No wonder Marvel chose him to tell the last tale of the X Men.

[Dooptastic]

I think it sounds cool. Who do you guys think will be in it? I wouldn't mind if it only featured the original X-Men. or maybe a few other classics like Wolverine, Storm, and Rouge. I just hope CC doesn't fill the roster with his lackluster "pet" characters like Thunderbird III, Lifeguard, and Marvel Girl.

[xtremexman]

Originally posted by Dooptastic
I think it sounds cool. Who do you guys think will be in it? I wouldn't mind if it only featured the original X-Men. or maybe a few other classics like Wolverine, Storm, and Rouge. I just hope CC doesn't fill the roster with his lackluster "pet" characters like Thunderbird III, Lifeguard, and Marvel Girl.

I would like to see the entire list of X Men that CC has worked with period - during his first run on X Men, during his second run on X Men, and even during his current run on X Treme X Men. Unifying all those characters would be CC's crowning achievement as far as I am concerned.

[xtremexman]

Originally posted by xpawn
I'd love to see a CC-Byrne-Smith collaboration. It's a sure way to bring back old and ex-readers, at the same time, promote the new x-titles to them and update them on the latest x-happenings (hopefully, with the sequel in the works, these people as well as fans of the movie would continue to buy and read the x-books). Very much like what Marvel is doing with the Spidey-promo and releases to coincide with the release of the movie in May.

Dreams to become reality. And I'm sure CC and Marvel have surprises in store for us :)

At this point I am going to go out on a limb and say that I am going to continue reading the X books no matter what. I am just now getting interested in Uncanny and New ever since the revamp began, and I have already been a fan of X Treme. As long as the X books are still around, I will continue to read them. That much is definately certain.

[ScaryBob]

cc is totaly the lowman on the totem his book is the noly current xbook i seriously consider dropping, and now an end peice. this is not something im excited about, it'll be all introspective and stuff or someone craddiling someone elses head in their hands thinking about how the dream failed. and at the end of the day marvel will just ignore it if it interfiers with continuity

[xtremexman]

Originally posted by ScaryBob
cc is totaly the lowman on the totem his book is the noly current xbook i seriously consider dropping, and now an end peice. this is not something im excited about, it'll be all introspective and stuff or someone craddiling someone elses head in their hands thinking about how the dream failed. and at the end of the day marvel will just ignore it if it interfiers with continuity

How could you possibly say that about CC? The guy has done so much for the X Men over the years. He has delivered on every single on every single occasion, and not once did CC drop the ball. CC had the longest run on the X Men to date, and nobody else has yet to break that record. During that time he introduced several hard-to-forget characters and told many amazing stories.

CC's original run on the X Men was incredible to say the least, if not the best work he has ever done. Several years later CC made his triumphant return to the X Men, only to leave a short while later. The reason why was because CC was being given his own X Men ongoing series while the two main books were getting a revamp. His current work on X Treme X Men is award winning stuff as far as I'm concerned, and could very well end up being even better than his original run. Now, let's put all that aside for a moment.

Suppose CC saw what you had posted. Do you think he would be just a little bit offended by your comments? I sure do. I for one am not going to drop his book for anything, seeing as how it is the best out of the three core titles right now. This new project that he has planned, though, will be an achievement in itself.

It seems only fitting that CC be given the honor of penning the last X Men story. Look at what he has accomplished over the years and tell me that I'm wrong. The guy is a legend when it comes to writing X Men comic books, and CC deserves to be the one to write the end of the X Men. I am excited about X Men: The End, and I can't wait until it is out on newsstands everywhere. The best thing about this is the fact that it will not interfere with current continuity.

All it is really is a series of one shots detailing the last stories of some of Marvel's most prominent characters. Personally, I think this could very well be Marvel's biggest launch yet. I hope you can agree with me on that, if anything at all.

[atomicbomb84]

No arguments about the importance of Chris Claremont. But I dunno if X-Treme is the best book out there. Could just be me, and could just be it suffers next to New X-Men. But then again I didnt enjoy his last X-men run that much, and dont get me starte don Savage Land. Maybe one shots like The End might work better, and U're right about there being no-one better. Chris was the original X-Men writer (stan lee doesnt count, he was poo), and it'd be good to see him end it, hopefully on a more upbeat tone than Days of Future Past.

As long as Lifeguard isnt even MENTIONED

abe

[xtremexman]

Originally posted by atomicbomb84
No arguments about the importance of Chris Claremont. But I dunno if X-Treme is the best book out there. Could just be me, and could just be it suffers next to New X-Men. But then again I didnt enjoy his last X-men run that much, and dont get me starte don Savage Land. Maybe one shots like The End might work better, and U're right about there being no-one better. Chris was the original X-Men writer (stan lee doesnt count, he was poo), and it'd be good to see him end it, hopefully on a more upbeat tone than Days of Future Past.

As long as Lifeguard isnt even MENTIONED

abe

That was the point I was trying to make. Claremont is important to the X Men because of the outstanding work he has done with them over the years. As far as the whole X Treme being the best book out there situation goes, I meant what I said and I will stand by my comment no matter what. The best X book is X Treme, followed by New, and then last but not least is Uncanny. Baring all that in mind, and Claremont's legendary accomplishments over the years, X Men: The End is looking to be another one of his huge successes.

[Milleniumcyke]

The problem with this book is that it won't be accurate. Do you realize how many new X-members there will be over the years and probably some deaths as well? What if he wrote this a few years ago and had Colossus in it or Psylocke?!

X-Men: The End will be just another issue that fans regard as "out of continuity".

[Dino Pollard]

Originally posted by Milleniumcyke
X-Men: The End will be just another issue that fans regard as "out of continuity".

I believe that was the intention from the beginning.