UNCANNY SHAKE-UP: CASEY OFF, AUSTEN ON

[Eric J. Moreels]

<a href="http://x-mencomics.com/xfan/images/previews/uncanny_x_405.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://x-mencomics.com/xfan/images/previews/uncanny_x_405t.jpg" align=left alt="Uncanny X-Men #405 preview"></a>According to a recent report at the Newsarama (http://www.comicon.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=13&t=000762) Web site, Uncanny X-Men writer Joe Casey will be departing the title with July's issue #409. U.S. War Machine and Ultimate X-Men writer Chuck Austen will take over as the regular series scribe with issue #410, also in July. Ron Garney will reportedly stay on as regular series artist.

Whilst Casey was unavailable for comment on the change, Austen said that Uncanny X-Men will go bi-weekly from issue #407 through to issue #412 to replace the Annual.

"I've already turned in that first issue," Austen said. "I've got an issue in the can, as far as I know Ron [Garney] is working on it right now, and we're working out the rest of the arc."

Austen went on to say that Casey is tidying up his loose ends before he leaves, leaving him free to take the title in his own direction. According to the new writer, the book will also see a slightly modified line-up which will include Professor X, Nightcrawler, Angel, XStacy, Iceman, Wolverine "on and off", as well as bringing in former Alpha Flight member Northstar as a full-time member.

"Yes, we'll be dealing with his sexuality," Austen said of the Northstar character. "It won't be a central theme, but he is who he is, and it will have an impact on things... relationships, attitudes, conflicts.”

Austen also promised two other additions - one a surprise and one "a shock that will send tremors through the Internet for a week or so, but I can't reveal who they are just yet."

Whilst citing Len Wein, Chris Claremont, John Byrne, and Dave Cockrum as the primary inspiration for the X-Men stories he wants to tell, Austen said that the recent X-Men movie will also have a profound effect on his storytelling.

"One of the things about the movie that was really cool for me was that it brought back this whole idea {that} these are people who care about each other," Austen said. "The relationship between Rogue and Wolverine in the film was really cool. In a lot of ways, that kind of things has been missing – people who care about each other and care about each other for a specific reason, and people who, for various, different circumstances are thrown together as a kind of pseudo-family, and they don’t always get along."

For more from Austen, check out the original report at Newsarama (http://www.comicon.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=13&t=000762).

[Neolithic]

Can't say I'll be shedding any tears on this, well, maybe tears of joy.

What does he mean by tremors I wonder.

Is Avalanche still alive? :D

[TristenMagnus]

I'm dying to know who the addition is that "will send tremors through the Internet for a week or so".....

[Raptor]

This is somewhat shocking to me. I was pretty excited when Casey and Morisson came on, but have been pretty dissapointed thus far. Casey had some good ideas, but his writing was lacking. I was hoping for him to succeed, but everything I goy excited about ended up pretty horrible.

Now, I can't say I know much of Austen's work. I enjoyed the issue of Ultimate X-Men he did, but that's all I know of him. I hope he doesn't go for a major shake-up. Just tell good stories, and they will speak more than an aesthetic or tonal revamp.

But c'mon... NORTHSTAR!?! That little comment is getting me a little wary. I like Northstar, but the fact that he's gay shouldn't be a stereotype of his character. I can't help but feel like he'll be used as some sort of PC altar to self-importance.

I'll reserve judgement 'till I see the work, but those are my opening thoughts.

[lynx]

Oh boy this is the best news in a long time, Fresh air in the uncanny, a bigger team, and northstar!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Oh my god am i happy about it, we finally get our "family" member in the x-men for good. this can only be great,

as for the 2 un-named members well i would have to say that at least one of them is a girl (to even things up a bit) and it looks like they are giving fans what they wanted (Casey off, northstar in and out, more women folk) so perhaps they will fulfill a longtime fan request and bring back DAZZLER!!!! God her and northstar would be like the bestest of friends, a disco queen and speed queen! I can see the interaction now. It would be like a family of friends again.

Not to critisize Caseys work but as a long time x-men reader his run did not strike me as fantastic at all, Stacy is about the only thing worthwhile out of his entire run. So all in all i am totally stoked that We are getting this change!!!

[shadowwave]

Now if we can just stop the practice of shairing characters I'll be a happy man! :~( Chuck Austin does good work, and I know I'll like Uncanny, but I'll still miss Chamber. At least we have Northstar.

[Joey Meyers]

I'm _very_ curious as to what Chamber's fate may be, heck he's the reason why I wads reading/buying Uncanny in the first place.

[Bamfette]

I for one am sad to see Casey go on one level, but curious to see what Austen will do on another... what i mean is, casey is starting to do some really cool stuff with the X-Corps and all, and i am one of the few who genuinely enjoyed his writing. regarding Austen, all i have read of his is the Gambit story in Ultimate, seemed pretty cool... nothing spectacular. but it was ok. and while i really don't care about Northstar, or more specifically his sexuality, as i think he's kind of a walking stereotype. i am intrigued by his talk of making them more of a family... i like that, that has been missing lately. i wish the team was a touch smaller though, and i wish Chamber would stick around. he and Stacy were shaping up to make a cute couple, and it looked like he was gaining more control over his powers.

i say it again tho, Casey updated his website yesterday (the fourth) and made zero mention of this... very odd. but of course Austen has no call to lie, that would be silly so i guess it is true, jsut odd that Casey does not so much as mention it.

[Anthony Zisa]

Crap.

I'm going to miss Joe. He had some really good ideas flying through the book, and his characterization was good. Luckily, we still have a full nine issues of his work, but his tenure was too short.

On the other hand, he does have a crapload of work coming out that looks hella cool, and he won't have to deal with immature prats calling for his death and crapping on his name, so I guess the trade-off is desirable for him. Hopefully, he'll come back for a LS or something, and won't let his experience with Uncanny sour him to the characters.

As for Austen, I liked his Ultimate work so far, and I've heard good things about US War Machine, so there's good buzz on him coming in. I'm sure he, like Joe, will try his absolute best. It's worrying that he's already talking about Northstar's sexuality, but it's going to be hard for anyone to tread the fine line between treating it with respect and getting preachy.

The bigger team also doesn't necessarily fill me with glee, as characters are sure to get pushed into the background, but, once again, at least they're replacing Joe with someone who's going to strive for what I think Casey was trying for - action, mature themes, and interesting ideas.

Good luck to Joe after his tenure ends, and good luck to Austen coming in.

- A

[shadowwave]

On this page it says Chuck will start with issue 409, but in the Newsorama artical it says Chuck will start with issue 410. X-Fan, is there any way we can get a clarification on which one is right?

[Kyle]

Well then....

As one of the people who's been to the wall time and again to defend Casey's tenure on the book, I can't say that I'm excited about his departure. I'm just hoping that he'll get a chance to finish the Supreme Pointif story, and it's impact on Nightcrawler, before Uncanny is nothing more then a blurb on his resume.

Austin's work on War Machine was good stuff, though not inspired. He really knows how to deal with issues of rascisim which is obviously a central theme for the Clan-X. However, his writing of the females in that book was, well...weak.

Also good to see that Stacey isn't going to be shafted--minds out of the gutter, people--and forgotten about right away. Too bad to see Chamber and Archangel depart though. Archangel has a good dynamic going with Nightcrawler and Iceman. Unless something happens to Chamber, it makes no sense for him to leave, especially after all the lectures he got in Poptopia.

Angel, as far as I'm concerned should be at Xavier's doing long devision, and Northstar.... Northstar suffers from the fact that he's Canadian and I dislike nearly every Canadian character out there. Beyond that he's a walking sterotype for french Canadians--snotty and arrogant, and I bet he can't drive either--which just isn't cool. I'm curious as to what role Charlie X is going to play in the book.

IN reagards to the new characters, unless one o' them is Ugly John risen from the dead--"I got better," heh"--Magneto or Imperious Rex--that's Namor for you kids not in the know--what's the big deal?

[FabioX]

From a Casey basher point of wiew: I'm really disappointed! :hellno:
I didn't like most part of Casey's work, BUT his Annual was really good and issue 399 & 401 made me think that somethin' positive was goin' on!
I really dislike Austen choice because I think - IMHO - he's got no talent enough to handle such an historical book.
I think that Marvel had to think to an higher profile writer like Millar (but I doubt he'd accepted) or Claremont.
Uncanny X-Men needs such a good writer.
Let's see :read: .... I'm not so enthusiast. :sick:

[Joey Meyers]

The only "surprise" new characters that I'd like to see would be Cannonball, Longhsot, maybe Dazzler, and possibly Havok. Other than, no clue (watch, it'll be something off the wall like a ressurected Doug Ramsey).

[Eric J. Moreels]

Originally posted by shadowwave
On this page it says Chuck will start with issue 409, but in the Newsorama artical it says Chuck will start with issue 410. X-Fan, is there any way we can get a clarification on which one is right?

You must have read the article here wrong. It clearly says Joe is leaving as of #409 and that Chuck is starting with #410.

[xtremexman]

If Chuck Austen really does replace Joe Casey, then I will definately be subscribing to this ongoing. I have previously dropped the book because of the radical new character designs, but what is happening now seems to be a lot more interesting. If Professor X is going to be on this team, then that means he will be back in his own body. I can't wait to see that happen. That whole thing with Cassandra Nova gave me the creeps, and it is about time things return to normal.

It's a good thing that Nightcrawler is till on the team, because he is one of my favorite characters. I can't say too much about the new Angel, because I don't know anything about her. I will surely look forward to seeing her in Uncanny though after Austen takes over. There was a rumor going around that XStacy was supposed to be Mystique, and I wonder how Austen is going to deal with this when he begins his run on the book. Hopefully all of that will be explained sometime in the near future, because things are really starting to get confusing.

Iceman is sticking around for once, and thank God he is. He has to be the most underused member of the original X Men, and I am glad to see that Iceman is staying on the team for more than one roster change. Wolverine being an on and off member doesn't surprise me too much, seeing as how he was in both books at the start of the revamp. He is a bit overused, and should stay in one book. If I had to pick one team for him to be a part of, it would have to be Uncanny.

As far as Northstar is concerned, despite the fact that he is gay, I am glad to see that he is becoming a full time member. It is about time that he gets some respect. Just because he is a homosexual doesn't mean that Northstar isn't a great character to work with. However, there is one thing that I am curious about. What happened to Archangel and Chamber?

Will they be going to New X Men, or are they going to be phased out for a little while? I hope that doesn't happen, at least not to Archangel. He has been around from the beginning, and removing him like that just wouldn't be right. As for Chamber, I don't think he should be phased out either. His character has come a long way since his Generation X days and it would a shame to just toss him to the side like that.

Give Chamber a chance - he really isn't that bad of a character.

[atxbomber]

I'm dissapointed to hear this news, but when thinking about it, Casey will have been on the book for about a year or so.

That's a pretty normal run length in today's day and age.

[xtremexman]

Originally posted by atxbomber
I'm dissapointed to hear this news, but when thinking about it, Casey will have been on the book for about a year or so.

That's a pretty normal run length in today's day and age.

I'm not disappointed... I'm excited. I am glad Joe Casey is gone. So long, Casey. Don't let the door hit you in the ass on your way out!

[Kyle]

Originally posted by xtremexman:
I'm not disappointed... I'm excited. I am glad Joe Casey is gone. So long, Casey. Don't let the door hit you in the ass on your way out!

Ya know, Eric, that's why I've been visiting X-Fan on and off since v.1.

The general level of maturity exhibited when posters express themselves.

::shakes head in disdain::

[Anthony Zisa]

Originally posted by xtremexman
I'm not disappointed... I'm excited. I am glad Joe Casey is gone. So long, Casey. Don't let the door hit you in the ass on your way out!

Mature.

- A

[Anthony Zisa]

Originally posted by Kyle


Ya know, Eric, that's why I've been visiting X-Fan on and off since v.1.

The general level of maturity exhibited when posters express themselves.

::shakes head in disdain::

Jinx.

- A

[xtremexman]

Originally posted by Kyle


Ya know, Eric, that's why I've been visiting X-Fan on and off since v.1.

The general level of maturity exhibited when posters express themselves.

::shakes head in disdain::

Sorry, but I meant that as a joke. I was only kidding, and I kind of acted on an impulse to say those things. If I offended yu, I apologize for doing so. It wasn't what I intended to do.

[Eric J. Moreels]

Originally posted by xtremexman
I'm not disappointed... I'm excited. I am glad Joe Casey is gone. So long, Casey. Don't let the door hit you in the ass on your way out!

Okay, there's no call for this sort of rude behaviour. Any more of this and you'll be the one dodging the door!

:mad:

[ManolisV]

oh well! so far i had only enjoyed about two and a half issues from his run, i can't say i'll really miss his tenure on the team. looking forward to having monthly doses of northstar :)

[BarbelithXavier]

aw, man I was just starting to really dig Casey.... But unlike Claremont I guess he wasn't interested in absorbing and playing off of Grant's ideas, he had his own cool X-Men...

Ah well, he's still got the best X annual in years under his belt and an excellent new character with Stacey (though I really wish chamber would stick around 'cause I liked the dynamic between the two.)

I've never read anything by Austen though I like his art... But seriously I really like all three core books right now... Please, please PLEASE let uncanny continue to be about a group of collegues rather than a typical superhero team! Please follow up on the Vanisher's cartel, even if it steps on Grants toes cause of the u-men tie in! Please don't water down Stacy! Please let underated characters like Iceman, Nightcrawller and Archangel continue to be as cool as Casey made them!

[monman]

Another writer change just what the xworld does not need. This in turn leads to another new line up, new characters and a more crowded xworld

The nec char could be blink

[xtremexman]

Originally posted by X-Fan


Okay, there's no call for this sort of rude behaviour. Any more of this and you'll be the one dodging the door!

:mad:

Like I said, Eric, I apologize if I have offended anyone. I was only messing around. Now that I realize it wasn't funny, I won't be saying anything like that again... I promise.

[Anthony Zisa]

Originally posted by xtremexman
Sorry, but I meant that as a joke. I was only kidding, and I kind of acted on an impulse to say those things. If I offended yu, I apologize for doing so. It wasn't what I intended to do.

Yeah. A joke as funny as the "who will hire me to run joe casey over with a truck" posts that popped up on one of the message board sites. Digs at creators are not funny. These are people, not abstracts. They read and see this, and might actually get hurt by your comments. An art/entertainment job may require a thicker skin to criticism, but thick skin to personal attacks should not be a requirement.

Some people (not necessarily you, but in general) act like Joe Casey shot a member of their family. It's insanity.

Between this and reading some of the crazy crap creators have gone through on the Ellis forum, it's a wonder anyone does this job.

- A

[xtremexman]

Originally posted by anthonyzisa


Yeah. A joke as funny as the "who will hire me to run joe casey over with a truck" posts that popped up on one of the message board sites. Digs at creators are not funny. These are people, not abstracts. They read and see this, and might actually get hurt by your comments. An art/entertainment job may require a thicker skin to criticism, but thick skin to personal attacks should not be a requirement.

Some people (not necessarily you, but in general) act like Joe Casey shot a member of their family. It's insanity.

Between this and reading some of the crazy crap creators have gone through on the Ellis forum, it's a wonder anyone does this job.

- A

Whoa! Down boy! There is no need to bite. I said I was sorry, ok? Isn't that enough?

Do you want me to apologize to Joe Casey, too? Ok, here goes... I am really sorry Joe. What I said, I didn't mean. Please forgive me for my ignorance. There?

You happy now? Just don't go nipping at my heels for some little smart remark I made even after I apologized.

[Anthony Zisa]

Originally posted by BarbelithXavier
Please, please PLEASE let uncanny continue to be about a group of collegues rather than a typical superhero team! Please follow up on the Vanisher's cartel, even if it steps on Grants toes cause of the u-men tie in! Please don't water down Stacy! Please let underated characters like Iceman, Nightcrawller and Archangel continue to be as cool as Casey made them!

Well, the article said that Austen has his own vision, and will let Casey's story points go with him. I don't know how far ahead of the game on scripts Casey was, so we don't know if he'll have the necessary time to tie up his loose ends. The X-Corps storyline runs through 405, so that gives him 4 issues to tie up the Supreme Pontiff and Church of Humanity, as well as Vanisher and Warp Savant.

I think Warp Savant will stay dead, and that given the choice of satisfyingly closing up the Pontiff dangler and the Vanisher dangler, Casey will choose Pontiff. He invested a lot of issues into starting it, and I presume he wouldn't want to leave it too open. Vanisher's storyline can be conveniently forgotten, as drug themes can always be picked up later.

- A

[Eric J. Moreels]

Originally posted by xtremexman
Like I said, Eric, I apologize if I have offended anyone. I was only messing around. Now that I realize it wasn't funny, I won't be saying anything like that again... I promse.

And this is why a lot of people don't like the Internet, because it's too easy for someone to just post/e-mail something without thinking it through first.

A little thought goes a long way.

Back to the topic at hand, I'm sad to see Joe go, as I thought he was hitting his stride with the X-Corps arc. The 2001 Annual was indeed a terrific story, and showed what Joe was really capable of with these characters. If you're reading this, Joe, thanks for some good stories and best of luck with your future endeavours!

I am intrigued by Chuck's bringing Northstar into the fold, and to find out who his two surprise recruits are!

[xtremexman]

Eric, I can't tell you are upset. But the real question I have to ask you is... are you going to punish me for saying what I said? I mean, I did thouroughly apologize. Haven't I been punished enough by having been told off more than once already?

[Anthony Zisa]

Originally posted by xtremexman
Whoa! Down boy! There is no need to bite. I said I was sorry, ok? Isn't that enough?

Do you want me to apologize to Joe Casey, too? Ok, here goes... I am really sorry Joe. What I said, I didn't mean. Please forgive me for my ignorance. There?

You happy now? Just don't go nipping at my heels for some little smart remark I made even after I apologized.

I didn't necessarily mean to snap at you, but you have to understand: creators make their living trying to entertain you. Good creators don't always give the audience everything they want on a silver platter, yet those creators also become flashpoints for controversy. Comments like the one you made, and to a more grevious degree, the joking/serious death threats on creators, show not only total disregard to the idea of decorum and not a modicum of manners, but very, very selfish. These people try to engage you with stories, but if the stories don't work, they get the crap kicked out of them. It's my biggest pet peeve, and sets me off.

Sorry if you thought I was snapping at you, but you have to understand - as far as I'm concerned, creator's rights and feelings supercede whether or not fans are enjoying the storyline. Criticize the work - don't bash the author.

- A

[xtremexman]

Originally posted by anthonyzisa


I didn't necessarily mean to snap at you, but you have to understand: creators make their living trying to entertain you. Good creators don't always give the audience everything they want on a silver platter, yet those creators also become flashpoints for controversy. Comments like the one you made, and to a more grevious degree, the joking/serious death threats on creators, show not only total disregard to the idea of decorum and not a modicum of manners, but very, very selfish. These people try to engage you with stories, but if the stories don't work, they get the crap kicked out of them. It's my biggest pet peeve, and sets me off.

Sorry if you thought I was snapping at you, but you have to understand - as far as I'm concerned, creator's rights and feelings supercede whether or not fans are enjoying the storyline. Criticize the work - don't bash the author.

- A

I understand now. Thank you for setting me straight. Before I go to bed, I would like to ask a question first. It is in regards to a shake up, but not the one that this thread is about. I will only get off topic for a moment, but I feel as if this needs to be said. What has happened to the avatars, you know the character pics under each user's name?

I just wanted to know why they weren't there anymore.

[Eric J. Moreels]

Originally posted by xtremexman
I just wanted to know why they weren't there anymore.

Check the latest announcement at the top of every forum for more info about that and other changes on the board today. It's all about conserving bandwidth.

Back to the topic at hand... Joe's not gone yet, and I for one am very much looking forward to the rest of the X-Corps story arc!

[Kyle]

Originally posted by anthonyzisa
Jinx.
Bloody hell. Does this mean I can't talk 'till someone says my name? Do you know how hard it is for me not to talk?

Never did like that stupid game.

Originally posted by xtremexman
Sorry, but I meant that as a joke. I was only kidding, and I kind of acted on an impulse to say those things. If I offended yu, I apologize for doing so. It wasn't what I intended to do.
You didn't offend me. Offending me is like killing a coakroach. Sure you can do it, but unless you know proper methods you're not going to have an easy time of it.

However, what I said was true. I've been visiting X-Fan for something like four or five years now because for the most part the disucussions are mature and intellagent, and there's very little fanboy gibberish. I like it here. However, occasionally comments, well thought out or now--I know that I've had some poorly considered ones myself--make it onto the board, and it reminds me why places like wizardworld.com are considered festering pits of the on-line comic community and why comics will probably never be seen as true literature or fine art during my life time.

As someone who's highest aspiriation is to write comics professionally that dissapoints me greatly. The idea that no matter how many people might one day enjoy my work, that there will be groups of people whom want to see me fail simply because they dislike what I'm doing is somewhat dispariging. Art is subjective. Sure, I will never buy anything Claremont writes again, but I wish him success and I'm certinally not saving up a bottle of champagne for the day he's no longer writing X-Treme.

[This would have been posted about twenty minutes ago but the board went all funky for me.]

[xtremexman]

Originally posted by X-Fan


Check the latest announcement at the top of every forum for more info about that and other changes on the board today. It's all about conserving bandwidth.

Back to the topic at hand... Joe's not gone yet, and I for one am very much looking forward to the rest of the X-Corps story arc!

Something just happened to me, and I hate to get off topic twice in a row but this is important. I kept coming back to this site, and it kept asking me for my password. I entered the correct one, but the message continued to appear. I sent an e mail to the site that you go through, but I haven't gotten a reply yet. I need my user info sent to my e mail address so that I can know what my password is the next time this happens.

Please tell me that I am not banned for life because of that idiotic comment I made about Joe Casey. I said I was sorry.

[Kyle]

Originally posted by X-Fan
Back to the topic at hand... Joe's not gone yet, and I for one am very much looking forward to the rest of the X-Corps story arc!
Agreed! The X-Corps and then whatever he finishes up with. I'm hoping for the Supreme Pointif and Casey making good on some of the characterization development--getting him out of that collar?--he mentioned about Nightcrawler.

Speaking of interviews, any chance of getting Casey's side of things? I wouldn't mind hearing what he has to say about his departure and I'm sure that an e-mail or whatever from you has more weight to it then one from me.

[Kyle]

Originally posted by xtremexman
Something just happened to me, and I hate to get off topic twice in a row but this is important. I kept coming back to this site, and it kept asking me for my password. I entered the correct one, but the message continued to appear. I sent an e mail to the site that you go through, but I haven't gotten a reply yet. I need my user info sent to my e mail address so that I can know what my password is the next time this happens.

Please tell me that I am not banned for life because of that idiotic comment I made about Joe Casey. I said I was sorry.
No worries, Bucky. The exact same thing happened to me, and to the best of my knowledge I haven't done anything ban worthy in at least a month and a half. Just a hick-up with the server is probably all.

[lynx]

no dude that also happened to me and you have to like put your dialup password in and dialup username! thats how i got in. donno why though quite an irritation,

Oh and dont feel bad, the guys here are just giving you a hard time. sometimes you lose your head when good news comes arround

[Bamfette]

Originally posted by Kyle

Agreed! The X-Corps and then whatever he finishes up with. I'm hoping for the Supreme Pointif and Casey making good on some of the characterization development--getting him out of that collar?--he mentioned about Nightcrawler.

if he gets the 'crawler out of the collar i will be elated! overjoyed, and his run on Uncanny will be memorable to me jsut for that; for saving my favorite character form spewing awful religious moral speeches as his main function in the comics. but fan girl wishin aside, Casey will be missed by me for other reasons as well, i really did like his stories and the X-Corps looks like it will totally rock. i hope it is not due to negative backlash that he is leaving, and that us Defendrs began our crusade too late... :(


Speaking of interviews, any chance of getting Casey's side of things? I wouldn't mind hearing what he has to say about his departure and I'm sure that an e-mail or whatever from you has more weight to it then one from me.

me too. the fact that it was not mentioned on his website has me confused no end.

[Vince Underwood]

Hey, Casey wasn't doing all that bad . . . but did you read US War Machine or the Ultimate Gambit stuff? Austen is going to kick some major ass!

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[Quinn]

That's too bad, since I was really enjoying his work so far. Hopefully Casey will take his remaining four issues and explore what happened between Nightcrawler and the Supreme Pontiff.

As for Chuck Austen, I’m not really excited about his ideas so far. I’m sad to see Chamber go, he always struck me as someone with untapped potential. I’m also disappointed to see that the Professor will making it out of the Imperial arc unscathed. I was actually hoping he would be trapped in Nova’s body. Then there’s Northstar, an iffy choice if you ask me. He could make an extremely interesting addition to the cast if written well, or he could become one huge walking stereotype. Here’s hoping for the former.

I also don’t really like the idea of him taking the team in another new direction, especially when I was just starting to really get into Casey’s.

On the up side, I am glad to see that Chuck is keeping Stacy around. I think she’s one of the more interesting characters to be introduced lately, plus she has a cool power.

I’ll admit though, that I am curious to see who his two mystery additions will be. I’m betting (and hoping) that it will be Alex and Lorna.

One question: When Austen says Angel, does he mean Archangel or the “new” Angle, over in New X-Men. I’m assuming he meant Warren, but a little confirmation would be nice.

[StarJammer]

well, i hate to see casey go, :beam: but some of the fans have been screaming his head on the chopping block for a while. but i am glad to hear that Northstar will finally be a perminent X-men(his preformance in E.O.D was brief but decient.) but IMO the icing to the cake would be if the new writer would make the new team member Northstar's E.O.D.'s alumni Paulie Provenza. (Jean could always vouche for him, he has the potiential to be a good X-men.)and i think that his slightly racist,massogeonistic, homophobic views would be a welcome addition to the team, as Prof. X, Kurt,Warren,Bobby.and even Jean-Paul teach him tolerance and understanding as he (Paulie) must now fight the same ignorence and intolerance that he himself was dishing out at one time.

[Ryan Scott]

Originally posted by Quinn
One question: When Austen says Angel, does he mean Archangel or the “new” Angle, over in New X-Men. I’m assuming he meant Warren, but a little confirmation would be nice. That's EXACTLY what I'm wondering, too, for good reasons. I'm also gonna assume that he meant Warren being 1) new Angel is Morrison's character and I don't foresee them sharing and 2) most writers seem to end up calling him Angel instead of Archangel. Silly silly writers.

Now, I'm very much disappointed in this news as I was really looking foward to Casey's future plans and enjoying his, IMO, great characterization of Warren and Bobby, along with his recent annual and stories. What I will say is that I AM interested in Austin's future plans (Northstar, eh? Intriguing....). But what REALLY worries me is that Garney is staying on as regular penciller. I've found that I just don't enjoy his rather "clean" style art and feel that it distracts from the actual story (and I'm not alone. Just check out what the FOURTH RAIL said about it). And I guess this means no more Phillips art. :~(
BUT (!!!!!!!!) Austin implied that Garney is already working on #410. That in turn means he is not going to be pencilling any of the issues until then. I might be off-base, but I'd guess that PHILLIPS WILL BE DRAWING #404-409! Well, one can dream, can't he?

[Ragincajun]

I am so glad this title is getting a new writer! I can finally resume picking up this the title that started it all. I have a question. When Austen said "Angel" will be in the line-up, did he make a mistake and mean Archangel or the new Angel?

I guess the addition of Northstar is okay. I just hope he isn't defined as "the gay guy" in the book but a human being with his own unique personality just like the rest of them. I'm guessing Havok is one of the new additions in the book.

It's too bad Chamber won't be staying. He's more valuable a character than X-Stacy. I was hoping his telepathic abilites would be explored more. Sad.
I'm just disappointed that Casey's run won't end sooner.


Ragincajun;)

[seanphillips]

I'm drawing 404, 405, then Joe's final three issues. I'm also scheduled to draw three of Chuck's issues this year.
I'm sorry to see Joe go, I've always enjoyed working with him and I think he is a very good writer. Drawing his X-Men scripts over the last few months has been a pleasure, and we will be working together again in the future

[XMutant]

Like Mabusrex said, When he (Chuck Austen) says "angel" he means Warren, not the character from New. If you read his interview in Newsrama, he says that he was asked "not to step in Grant's toes". So I don't see Grant letting Angel come to Uncanny.

[gideonstargrave]

Northstar (a gay man) and Nightcrawler (a catholic priest) on the same team! This is one issue that really should be covered even it is briefly!

Good luck Chuck Austen! Looking forward to your stories!

[Bamfette]

Originally posted by seanphillips
I'm drawing 404, 405, then Joe's final three issues. I'm also scheduled to draw three of Chuck's issues this year.
I'm sorry to see Joe go, I've always enjoyed working with him and I think he is a very good writer. Drawing his X-Men scripts over the last few months has been a pleasure, and we will be working together again in the future

well... i guess that's something then... I sincerely do hate to see Joe go, but if you are drawing his final issues, atleast he will go out with a bang. ;)

[Bamfette]

Originally posted by gideonstargrave
Northstar (a gay man) and Nightcrawler (a catholic priest) on the same team! This is one issue that really should be covered even it is briefly!

Good luck Chuck Austen! Looking forward to your stories!

if he's still a priest by then ;) ok i may be setting myself up for dissapointment here... but i can hope!

besides priest or not he is very very tolerant of such things. how could he be anything but tolerant when he has experiencd do much hate jsut because he is a mutant?

[Xtence]

Although I have seen better stories from Joe, I was curious to see where he was going. But I can’t wait to see the “new” uncanny X-men.

[Amberman]

Not unexpected, but I'm kinda sorry to see Casey go. He just seemed to be finally getting somewhere with his work. Hopefully, before #410, we'll still be able to read some stories of the good quality I'm sure he's capable of.
I'd have preferred to hear that Garney was off the book as his artwork doesn't really interest me anymore.

Still, Chuck Austen seems to be a promising choice of replacement. Good attitude, and I'm enjoying his Ultimate X-Men fill-in. I like the way that the team line-up isn't going to completely change overnight, with only one member leaving. I really dislike it when a new writer comes on and radically changes the team in the space of a single issue, regardless of what has gone before, just to get their favorite characters in the book (e.g. with an unexplained gap of however many months!)
And it'll be good to see Northstar getting some screen time again!

Sam

[Mason]

I'm actuily a bit disapointed, I was really enjoying Casey's work and was hopeing he would stick around for at least a little longer.

Its also a shame that Chamber is going to leaveing, hes my fave character on the current team and from his days in Gen X, it's going to be sad to see him go, especialy with an up and coming Icons series.

Who knows maybe down the line he'll hook up with his old budies and start up a new Gen X.

I can dream cant I.

[Kim S. August]

Originally posted by seanphillips
I'm drawing 404, 405, then Joe's final three issues. I'm also scheduled to draw three of Chuck's issues this year.
I'm sorry to see Joe go, I've always enjoyed working with him and I think he is a very good writer. Drawing his X-Men scripts over the last few months has been a pleasure, and we will be working together again in the future

Sean, I'll be picking up the books through the end of Joe's run and it makes me feel good in a way that you will be the artist who will send Casey out in fine fashion. I'm going to miss Joe immensely (as he was the only writer for brought me to this book for more than arc), but I wish you well working with Chuck too.

Very glad to hear that you will both be working together again (oh how I would love it to be on more Wildcats ;))

[Kim S. August]

In a way, I can understand Joe's leaving at this point with all of the other projects and I'm glad that sean phillips is joining him on those last issues, but a part of me is taking solice in that Joe will still be writing my favorite work of his (Wildcats) and that's enough for me anyway.

Still, Casey brought me to Uncanny X-Men more than any other writer on record.

I wish Chuck Austen luck and will probably check out his issues with Sean Phillips.

As for Joe bring on Wildcats 3.0 and all those other good series!

Loganteamx trying to be optimistic DoU #8

[XMutant]

I know it's still very soon to say, but since Joe Casey is off Uncanny (as many of you wanted), and we have a new writer, what do you expect from him?
Any thoughts on what he will do?

(please don't copy his interview ':D'

[Ragincajun]

Who is Sean Phillips and what has he drawn?

Ragincajun

[seanphillips]

Sometimes I don't know why I bother... I've drawn over 3000 pages of American comics and you can't remember seeing any of them...

[AlyxNsac]

We're getting Northstar as a full member, and getting rid of Casey at the same time. I don't think a better thing could have happened to this title. It might actually be worth collecting now, definitley thumbs up on Northstar joining and Casey being fired or dropped off the book or whatever happened. FANTASTIC. I expect quality now, and exciting, worthwhile stories.

[troy2g1]

Sounds intresting. I liked Chucks work on US War Machines & Ultimate, so this sounds like a good idea...
Im excited that he's bringin in Northstar & has 2 more additions coming... it sounds like it could b hot... I wish one was M (but i doubt it)...
BUT! Why is Chamber leaving? What is gona happen wit the XCorps? Why is Prof X now becoming part of this team? (SO that means all while go well over in New wit the whole Nova/X switchy thingy)...
Lets see...

[gideonpryde]

I've never been truly amazed by Joe Casey.
Some of his work has been good, but it's never been Chris Claremont. I think Austen, since he admitted his work was inspired from many of the earlier authors will be great and I'm actually excited to collect the title once again. Y'know, while I'm thinking about it... I think the other reason I'm not as excited about Uncanny as I used to be is probably due to the fact its currently a month late and its hard to get your britches in an uproar when you don't know when the next time its being released. Alas, most of the X-titles suffer from this disease, except for Extreme of course.

All hail Chris!

[Ragincajun]

What I want is for Uncanny to go back to being the #1 CORE TITLE it use to be! Bring back the intrigue, the excitement, the mystery, the awe!!


Ragincajun;)

[bowenfan]

Well, I too am glad to see Casey go. His X-men stuff just wasn't doing it for me (never read the annual - too expensive)
Heres hoping Austin will be better for the book, he could deep six Stacy and I would be happy though.

[XMutant]

I would like to see the uncanny team move out of the mansion. maybe to London (Excalibur days). I wish to see more characters from the X-Men's past coming to the front (Megan, Capt. Britain, Maggott, etc), and please stop exchanging characters. I think that Logan and the Professor belong in New.

8o

I just hope to hear more from Chuck Austen soon.

:beam:

[VolcanoRob]

Originally posted by seanphillips
I'm drawing 404, 405, then Joe's final three issues. I'm also scheduled to draw three of Chuck's issues this year.
I'm sorry to see Joe go, I've always enjoyed working with him and I think he is a very good writer. Drawing his X-Men scripts over the last few months has been a pleasure, and we will be working together again in the future

Good luck to you Sean, I'm glad to see you still working on the title.


As for Casey, I can't say I'm really disappointed. I did enjoy the annual, 399, and 397 I believe, but wasn't really impressed by the rest.

For Austen, I'm really thrilled. I'm loving Ultimate Gambit, and his team sounds great. Its news like this that gets me excited for comics! I hope Northstar's costume will be getting a facelift. His lil unitard isn't gonna cut it in this title anymore. lol

Also, when he mentioned Angel above did he mean bug-girl or Warren? I'm unclear.

Welcome aboard Chuck!

[shadowmagik77]

I can't say that I'm sad that Casey's leaving Uncanny. I never thought that the book and he quite melded. Since the relaunches, it's consistently been the one book that I could take or leave on a montly basis.

I am glad, however, that Austen will be returning a "family" feel to be book, something which was sorely lacking under Casey's tenure--Uncanny had this very cold, clinical feel to it, which was ironic to me since Casey went on and on about how much sex he was going to inject into the mix.

I'm also happy that Northstar has his shot at being an X-Man. Hopefully Allison Blaire will be on hand as well--the two of them would be a fantastic platonic duo.

I believe that Warren will still be around, as Austen most likely referred to him as "Angel." Very unlikely Morrison's Angel will be showing up. And I'm excited that Prof X will be along for the ride.

As for guesses as to who Austen will be adding to Uncanny, I'd love to see Dazzler, Jubilee, Polaris, or Havok. Or even Husk. Or Domino. (Someone in limbo!)

As for the mystery member, my guess: Mystique.... (Very likely it's a former villain, such as Mystique or Juggernaut, or someone deceased... Illyana, anyone?)

-Shadowmagik

[hellshock]

Not really disappointed to see Casey go, but I'm furious at Chamber's departure. :#

I don't see how Professor X will fit in Uncanny X-Men, but I guess I'll just have to wait and see.

The bigger team sounds like a bad idea.

[Steven Paul]

I can't say I'm disappointed, because I'm not. But it is pretty messed up that I would start to enjoy one issue (and the whole X-Corps idea) and now he'll be gone.

Like a lot of other people, I'm interested in seeing what will happen to Chamber.

[loganalpha30x3]

I think that Warren is staying on the team, and if you want a family feel on the book and a character addition that will bring a lot of talk, then I'd say a character that would do that is Psylocke, as long as her and Warren got back together, I don't think that they could be on the same team together again and not be a couple. I'll go now.............

[loganalpha30x3]

Well Betsy would come back to life first then join the Uncanny team. I'll go now.....................

[Seventh Sense]

Yeah!!! I'm SO happy to hear this!!
Casey's off, Northstar is in, family-feel back!!!
Oh, this has made my week!!:D:D:D

[snafu]

joe casey talked himself up soooo much and delivered squat.

i can't say i enjoyed one issue of his run, absolutely standard drivel [still better than anything claremount has done lately but don't get me started]

chamber was an interesting addition, it sucks that he's leaving and angel is staying, but i'm glad that a writer with some common sense is coming on, i'm digging austen's work on ultimate atm.

[Tan K.]

Holy Mother of Snoopy!!! :O





I just now heard about this???!

I think that I've been a fair critic of Joe. I thought that his stories were bland at he beginning but that they were starting to go somewhere. I think like CC that he needed another 10 issues to get everything layed out. I'm sorry to see him go because I thought things were going to get better (up to par with his Cable stuff and from what I heard his Wildcat issues). However, if Mr. Austen can come in here and give them actual interactions and personalities, I'm all for it.

Northstar will be an interesting addition. Hopefully, he will be written as a person who happens to be gay as opposed to a gay character.

[Tan K.]

Originally posted by loganalpha30x3
I think that Warren is staying on the team, and if you want a family feel on the book and a character addition that will bring a lot of talk, then I'd say a character that would do that is Psylocke, as long as her and Warren got back together, I don't think that they could be on the same team together again and not be a couple. I'll go now.............

I knew you would have something to say about Psylocke and Uncanny. man, you have become pure entertainment to me when it comes to your Psylocke posts. I'm not meaning any disrespect by this post either, so please don't take any offense.

[stoney]

Well Uncanny wasn't the greatest, but I don't think it was as bad as the more vocal people are saying. I am glad Northsar will be making an appearance...but I will reserve judgement on the new writer until I read a few issues...

Best of luck Joe.

[atomicbomb84]

I'm in mixed feelings about the change. I have to say that on the whole I didnt like Casey's work, but there was always at least the spark of something there. I just think he started badly, and the artist thing didnt help, and it suffered when compared to what Morrison and Quitely were (occasionally) doing on New X-Men. Oh well, thats the way it goes. Good luck to Joe in the future.

And with Marvel's rep, it wouldnt suprise me if Psylocke came back. Maybe in the new X-Factor? Worked, once before...


abe

[Bullseye]

This is great news! Austen on War Machine was awesome, and now he will be doing Uncanny?!

I'm BACK on the book.

[Orphan]

I´m sad to see Chamber go too,
I don´t want this new Angel on Uncanny...
and I don´t like the idea of the x-men beeing again a crowd.

That said, I don´t think I´m too excited about this new writer. But I should wait and see before comment any further, I guess.

One question though: I never read a story with Northstar. Why is he so special besides the fact that he´s gay? I´ve heard that he has super strenght, speed, can fly and shoot light beams from his hands... if so, his powers don´t seem too original. Can anyone shortly tell me his story? Thank you.

[MisterE]

They seriously need to put Chamber in New X-Men or X-treme now. He has so much potential and it makes no sense to send him to limbo.

Hey, maybe he and Xorn can become regulars in New X-Men. Seems like they'd have a lot in common.

Save Chamber!

[Rednax310]

Originally posted by Orphan
I don´t want this new Angel on Uncanny...


Is it going to be the new (read: crappy) Angel or Archangel? Either way, I'm glad Casey will be out. Hopefully Austen will create good stories.

[Rednax310]

I think one of the best things Austen will do is making Wolverine an on/off member officially. I know it's sort of been that way, but now it's officially. Honestly I think he should only be in one book (aside from his own) but this is good enough

[Tan K.]

Poor, poor chuck. I guess he's used to the cyber bashing. I wonder what I'll find wrong with his stuff (I'm just kidding in case anyone is taking this seriously).

watch. Casey's last issues are going to great, and then everyone will post about how chuck isn't living up to Casey's standards. That would be soooooooo ironic.

Does anyone know if Casey got pulled or quit?

[Dream2002]

Since Austen respects the works of Len Wein, Chris Claremont, John Byrne, and Dave Cockrum Ill give him a chance.

I felt that Casey never respected what came before and was too caught up with writing "cool" stories for the MTV generation of fans.

[blue]

I want to see more female characters joins uncanny x-men like CECELIA REYES ,dazzler,polaris,rachel e.t.c.
Less wolverine and a bettr artist than Garney.
and I am happy with the return of northstar!!!

[TristenMagnus]

Don't mind much who's writing, but I'm glad Northstar's joining the team soon, and I wonder who the new two members are gonna be.... especially the one who's supposed to send tremors... :rolleyes: wonder who that could be .... ;)

[AskaniSage]

Yahoo!!! Northstar is joining!!! Wow I will finally be buying Uncanny again. It was the only of the 3 core books I DIDN'T read cause I disliked the writing in it. Now just throw Dazzler or Amanda Sefton into the book and I will really love it.

[Magic Rabbit]

I’ve never been a fan of Casey’s writing, so I’m not too broken up about him leaving Uncanny. But I am kind of shocked – he had a lot of fans out there, and his leaving the book seems a little abrupt.

I’m not too familiar with Austin so I’m not too sure what to expect from him. But I really would like to see the team stay small. Too much overcrowding only leads to some characters being neglected. And after neglect comes limbo, right? ;) Just ask Havoc.

Originally posted by lonewolf21
The only "surprise" new characters that I'd like to see would be Cannonball, Longhsot, maybe Dazzler, and possibly Havok. Other than, no clue (watch, it'll be something off the wall like a ressurected Doug Ramsey).

Resurrect Cypher? That would be cool! :cool: :cool: Or better yet, what about Warlock? :yes: He’s still out there (only I think he’s still calling himself Douglock).

Magic Rabbit

“Existential void where prohibited.” - Crow T. Robot

[Rednax310]

Originally posted by pro


Does anyone know if Casey got pulled or quit?

I read somewhere (it's linked in the marvel buzz at www.marvel.com) that is said "...when Joe expressed interest in moving on..." who knows if that's what actually happened.

[Magic Rabbit]

Originally posted by Bamfette

if he gets the 'crawler out of the collar i will be elated! overjoyed, and his run on Uncanny will be memorable to me jsut for that; for saving my favorite character form spewing awful religious moral speeches as his main function in the comics.


:yes:

I'm with you Bamfette! I was always hoping that, regardless of all else, Casey would end that ridiculous priest story line. Maybe he will before he leaves: one can only hope.

Magic Rabbit

“Existential void where prohibited.” - Crow T. Robot

[Dream2002]

Originally posted by Ragincajun
What I want is for Uncanny to go back to being the #1 CORE TITLE it use to be! Bring back the intrigue, the excitement, the mystery, the awe!!


Ragincajun;)

Im with you on this one Ragincajun.

[Magic Rabbit]

Originally posted by Ragincajun
What I want is for Uncanny to go back to being the #1 CORE TITLE it use to be! Bring back the intrigue, the excitement, the mystery, the awe!!


Ragincajun;)

I second (or third?) that!

Magic Rabbit

“Existential void where prohibited.” - Crow T. Robot

[Magic Rabbit]

Originally posted by AskaniSage
Yahoo!!! Northstar is joining!!! Wow I will finally be buying Uncanny again. It was the only of the 3 core books I DIDN'T read cause I disliked the writing in it. Now just throw Dazzler or Amanda Sefton into the book and I will really love it.

I don’t understand why everyone loves Dazzler, but hey, when she’s written well she’s cool. Personally I would much prefer to have Shadowcat on the team.

Magic Rabbit

“Existential void where prohibited.” - Crow T. Robot

[Unanon]

Well, writers come and go. I was just really starting to warm up to Casey. *pouts*
I'm not too disapointed with Austen's work on Ultimate X-Men, so I have high hopes.

As for the character changes... I won't miss Chamber at all. Sure Casey used him, but there was little to minimal character development. :rolleyes:

I hope the 'Angel' is Warren - 'Nuff said.

VERY pleased that Kurt and Bobby are staying! Iceman has SO much potential... and Casey didn't ignore him. I just hope we get some additional character development with Austen.

As for Northstar. I've always liked him. :D I just hope he doesn't become a stereotype. Even worse, I hope they don't go and give him a relationship with someone else on the team! Bobby may be gay in many, many fanfics, but not in canon!! :hellno:

And the 'surprise'? They've been hinting at Mystique for some time now, haven't they? ;)

But I DID like someone's comment that they should bring in Juggernaut !! I could REALLY get into that! :cool:

Unanon

[Neolithic]

I don't find Dazzler all that great. Shadowcat is decent character but her power is nothing too exciting. Give me Jubilee anyday though; amazing untapped powers and a quirky attitude its a total package. I have a feeling the X-Corp will be the end of her credibility though, but lets hope not.

Add Havok and Jubilee and we'll be set.

[Drax]

I have mixed feelings about this. I was finally starting to enjoy Casey's run, but it wasn't anything really great. I haven't read anything of Austens except that Ultimate issue, and I won't judge a writer on 1 issue so i'll wait til i comment about him. I do like knowing Prof X will be in though.

The Newsarama article said Uncanny will be go bi-monthly for 5 issues. Is anyone else excited about that?

[ChaosMcKenzie]

I was having a moment.... but does anyone else feel that perhaps having standard team line ups for the X-Men is a little limiting???

I wonder how utilizing a rotating team line up, might add/distract from the story lines?

I've just noticed that a lot of the debate seems to center around the characters...

[fuzzyblue]

The character changes are really exciting, especially the addition of Northstar. I've missed the Alpha Flight gang and thought that he was one of the best things about Jean's makeshift team in the Genosha thing. (and was irked when he didn't make it into the latest Wolvie ish). As for the others, I hope that Polaris makes it in, along with Havok. If I can't have Warren and Betsy I'll take Alex and Lorna.

[Jackraow21]

And the 'surprise'? They've been hinting at Mystique for some time now, haven't they?

Unless she's already on the team. Think about it. In Uncanny #401 (the 'Nuff Said issue) Mystique was mysteriously missing from her prison cell, wasn't she? Coincidentally, this mysterious new mutant who happens to look a lot like Mystique suddenly joins the team. Maybe the pheremone control power is Mystique's secondary mutation (like the Beast's mutating into a cat or Emma Frost's diamond power). That would be pretty cool IMO.

As for the whole Angel controversy, I'm betting that he meant Archangel (aka Warren Worthington III) and NOT the new Angel over in New X-men. Man, that's pretty confusing, isn't it? They should give that girl a new code name, don't you think?

Northstar, huh? Ok, should be interesting.

I'm sorry to see Chamber go, but at least they're not ditching Nightcrawler, Iceman, or Wolverine (permanently, at least). I wonder what will become of Chamber? Uh, oh...

So now Professor X is in both books too, huh? Well, if anyone should be, I guess it should be him. He did found the X-men, after all.

Overall I think I'm gonna like the new line-up. I think it would be perfect, though, if they were to make Stacy X really Mystique in disguise and bring back Jubilee. Then the line-up would be:

Professor X
Nightcrawler
Archangel
Iceman
Mystique
Northstar
Jubilee
Wolverine (part-time)

That line-up would rock IMO! If not Jubilee, then maybe Chuck Austen could bring back Dazzler or Cecelia Reyes.

I just hope he doesn't bring Colossus or Psylocke back from the dead. Let them rest in peace 'cause to bring them back now---so soon after they've died---would just be silly IMO.

[yeti]

sorry to see Casey go he started to show some promise. I wish Austen the best.
If only they would replace Morrison on New X-men with a real writer that knows the subject.

[Drax]

I'm also curious about the reason behind the departure of Casey.

But anyway. I haven't read much of Austen stuff, so I really don't know how good of a writer he is. I do like some of his plans though. Prof X is in, which I like and like that he'll be going the same direction as Morrison. Maybe the characters of the 2 books could actually interact with eachother a little. That would be great. Plus, 5 issues bi-monthly. Yay!!!

[mistersinister]

Well, the Casey era comes to an abrupt end, and we're left to wonder, "what went wrong?"

I have a theory. As part of the X-Men re-launches, Marvel tried to find an unique voice for each book, hoping that there'd be an X book to satisfy all tastes. In the end, Uncanny never found it's voice, and was doomed to fail.

Putting Claremont on X-treme was a stroke of genius. It allowed Marvel to produce a title that would appeal to the older/nostalgic crowd and the Claremont devotees. But it also allowed Marvel to keep Claremont largely away from the core book(s) continuity. So you get Claremont, but in a controlled environment.

Morrison did a beautiful job right off the bat establishing a new voice for "New X-Men." New X-Men has basically become "Ultimate X-Men with established continuity," but it works. If X-treme is all about characterization, then New X-Men is all about unexpected plot twists.

But what about poor Uncanny? It tries to be "hip" and "modern" (whatever that means) but it tries too hard and isn't as hip or modern as New X-Men. It tries to be epic, but it pales in comparison to X-treme. The inconsistent art prevented the book from picking up any momentum, and those god-awful silent books didn't help either.

So, I'm encouraged by Austen's plans. He wants to make Uncanny the X-Men "family" book, which is definitely a rich direction.

So, all in all, these are good times. The Pats win the Super Bowl, Chamber is gone, and we get a new direction for Uncanny.

I'm sure Joe Casey will be fine. He's written good comics in the past, and he's sure to write more good comics in the future. But he never really clicked with the X-Men. Good luck to him.

[dman38]

Finally the last bad x-book will gonna be great, Austen is a great writer, in one issue he made me like the ultimate Gambit, and already started well, Casey almost never made any comment about his plans to the Uncanny. Besides that Northstar will be a great add to the book!

[Jackraow21]

Well, I'd love to see it revealed that Stacy X is actually Mystique in disguise. The pheremone power could be her secondary mutation caused by the mutant baby boom (like Emma Frost's diamond power) and perhaps when she escaped from prison she fled to the X-ranch to hide-out from the law. Imagine her surprise when the X-men showed up and actually took her in as a new member. However, in order for this theory to actually work her pheremone control power would also have to be able to somehow mask her scent (otherwise Wolverine would have known that she was Mystique). I think that it would be cool if this happened, but I don't want to see Mystique as a good guy. Not that I think the X-men would allow her to join if they knew she was Mystique. After all, she did kill Moira MacTaggert. Mystique would probably just bide her time until she figured out a way to seriously hurt the X-men. Then she'd make her move. I'd like to see that, but maybe that's just me.

Other than that, I'm with whomever said that they just want Uncanny to be the awesome title that it used to be.

[ManolisV]

Originally posted by ChaosMcKenzie
(CHUCK TAKE A HINT... DON'T WATCH THE AMERICAN QUEER AS FOLK FOR IDEAS...

i love the americal QAF! what's wrong with it?

[Unchained]

Austen is my favorite writer! This is a dream come true!

Unchained -
Still in disbelief!

[Paploo]

Well, Kitty Pryde is NOT joining the team for one major reason...

She's getting her OWN series :) The previously announced Chris Claremont MekaniX, which if it sells well, will just become an ongoing, or get another miniseries... either way, Kitty's taken.


As for who SHOULD join. I have one word for ya all.
GIRLS.

[Michael Fisch]

SOO many thoughts come to mind....

Major shakeup new character that will rock the internet for a week or so (all things considered, a long time for the internet), huh? It reminds me of Chris Claremont's reply to my post in his forum last week when he said major things were in the works as far as interaction between the titles. It makes me think...maybe one of the characters will be coming over from the Xtreme Team??? Makes sense, from a business point of view...a way to get fans of one book to try out the other. My guess, if this is the case, is that the new character will be Rogue. What do you think?

Northstar joining the team...it's about time! I wouldn't say he's a stereotype in any way. As a gay person myself, I would recommend you DON'T watch any of the "major" hollywood (or independent) films about gay people....just write him as a real character who simply happens to be gay and you will be fine. Just as the rest of the characters are portrayed as real people who just happen to be mutants. Its why we love them all.

Another radical idea just occurred to me. With Jean-Paul now a member of the team, I was thinking which other major mutants have yet to join the X-Men. Suddenly, it popped into my head...The Scarlet Witch!!!! I mean, how cool would that be? With a new writer coming on to the Avengers, maybe Wanda doesn't fit into the plans there...and it has been far too long that the daughter of Magneto has been away from the X-Canon.

[shadowmagik77]

Originally posted by lockheed
Suddenly, it popped into my head...The Scarlet Witch!!!! I mean, how cool would that be? With a new writer coming on to the Avengers, maybe Wanda doesn't fit into the plans there...and it has been far too long that the daughter of Magneto has been away from the X-Canon.

Having Wanda on the team could be interesting... so long as they change her codename! How about "Scarlet"?

Or is there a moratorium on having more than one redheaded X-woman? ;)

-Shadowmagik

[xtremexman]

Originally posted by Kyle

No worries, Bucky. The exact same thing happened to me, and to the best of my knowledge I haven't done anything ban worthy in at least a month and a half. Just a hick-up with the server is probably all.

Oh, thank God. I was seriously getting worried for a minute there.

[DDMorgan]

Did Joe Casey get fired from Uncanny X-Men? With Joe's abrupt departure & silence, this looks like he did indeed get fired from the book.

[spiderboi20]

on the board i read that the new uncanny writer was adding northstar and professor x to the team, and then it said angel, did the writer mean the new angel, or does he like to refer to warren worthington to angel still, mean that the new angel will be killed off and he takes back his old codename. and lets put it this way, if warren isn't on uncanny when the new writer is on, maybe they will say he's off mourning over betsy or on another quest to the crimson dawn to get her back. anybody else think this about the whole angel thing?

[Bradmon]

I just hope Austen defines the Uncanny team as the "field agent" X-Men. Because, Morrison has defined his team as the "teaching staff" and Claremont's team is the "rag tags looking for Destiny's diaries".

I hope they bring in Cecelia as the school nurse or something. She's destined to be the Beverly Crusher of the X-Men, dernit! Why won't Marvel listen?!?!? :sick:

Kind of surprised Chamber wasn't on the list. I thought he was a good character...gave some hope for the misfits formerly of Generation-X. Ah well.

[xtremexman]

Originally posted by DDMorgan
Did Joe Casey get fired from Uncanny X-Men? With Joe's abrupt departure & silence, this looks like he did indeed get fired from the book.

I am not sure is Joe got fired or not. I certainly haven't heard anything like that yet, and you are the first person that I know of to mention the possibility.

[DDMorgan]

Originally posted by xtremexman


I am not sure is Joe got fired or not. I certainly haven't heard anything like that yet, and you are the first person that I know of to mention the possibility.


I'm simply asking the question everyone else is thinking. Besides, I want to hear why Joe Casey is off Uncanny X-Men suddenly .

[xtremexman]

Originally posted by DDMorgan



I'm simply asking the question everyone else is thinking. Besides, I want to hear why Joe Casey is off Uncanny X-Men suddenly .

Whenever somebody leaves a book like that, I ask myself the very same question.

[troy2g1]

Originally posted by spiderboi20
on the board i read that the new uncanny writer was adding northstar and professor x to the team, and then it said angel, did the writer mean the new angel, or does he like to refer to warren worthington to angel still, mean that the new angel will be killed off and he takes back his old codename. and lets put it this way, if warren isn't on uncanny when the new writer is on, maybe they will say he's off mourning over betsy or on another quest to the crimson dawn to get her back. anybody else think this about the whole angel thing?

I thought about that, but normaly people always refer to Archangel as Angel (from what ive seen--not necessarily big time comic fans, but people in general, he will always be Angel).
2nd Chuck said he doesnt know much bout the XMen and is takin them back to their roots (UXM#1) and Warren was Angel then... SOoooo doubt that its the new girl (who will probably get killed while pregnant during NXM new arc wich will put some1 over the edge to stop Cassie).

[Mason]

Personlay I would prefer to have Chamber actuily stick around rather than have Northstar join, I just never get overily excited about Northstar myself, dont see whats so great about him.

[Sasquatch]

Was Joe Casey’s writing on the Uncanny X-Men mediocre because of Morrison?
As Chuck Austen stated he will have to follow Morrison’s lead and basically stay out of his way.
I hope Chuck is given more room to show his version of the X-Men…or is able to handle following Morrison’s ideas and plots better than Casey did.
I thought Quesada wanted the X-books to have their own directions and explore separate areas….rather than just being clones of each other.
I have faith in Austen though….I think he’ll do a good job…even if he is restrained by “Morrison’s view of the X-Men”.

[karnak]

Originally posted by Sasquatch
I thought Quesada wanted the X-books to have their own directions and explore separate areas?.rather than just being clones of each other.
I have faith in Austen though?.I think he?ll do a good job?even if he is restrained by ?Morrison?s view of the X-Men?.

I think you're mistaking a few ideas here. The books are separate which is *why* Austen is aware of where Morrison is going, and since both Morrison and Claremont have each set up plotting ideas, then it's only fair for Austen to not contradict anything they have set up.

P
Who doesn't understand why people are blaming Morrison for this.

[chrissydechagny]

Eh...Casey's leaving Uncanny?! Wha....? :LOL: I'm so out of the loop. Anyways, I never really read Uncanny that much, but I don't think I'll ever forgive Casey for that awful #394 http://www.forums4fans.com/smilies/puke.gif

Can't wait to see what Chuck brings to this much-in-need-of-help title. :)

[Magic Rabbit]

Originally posted by DDMorgan
Did Joe Casey get fired from Uncanny X-Men? With Joe's abrupt departure & silence, this looks like he did indeed get fired from the book.

Yeah, your right, his exit seemed really abrupt, but we’ll probably never know the reasons. And honestly, it isn’t any of our business. I may not have enjoyed his writing, but I’d hate to think the man was fired. It’s a little harsh, especially since I’m sure Casey was aware of all the criticism (good and bad) about him and his work on Uncanny.

Magic Rabbit

“Existential void where prohibited.” - Crow T. Robot

[xtremexman]

Originally posted by Magic Rabbit


Yeah, your right, his exit seemed really abrupt, but we’ll probably never know the reasons. And honestly, it isn’t any of our business. I may not have enjoyed his writing, but I’d hate to think the man was fired. It’s a little harsh, especially since I’m sure Casey was aware of all the criticism (good and bad) about him and his work on Uncanny.

Magic Rabbit

“Existential void where prohibited.” - Crow T. Robot

I just read an article on Marvel's website that said Joe wanted to leave the book. That would imply that he left Uncanny X Men voluntarily, and that he wasn't fired. Kind of makes you think, doesn't it?

[xchild]

i was a little surprised to see Casey leaving to, though i think in the long run i kinda expected it. it's too bad. though his stories weren't GREAT i thought they were pretty good. I was and still am looking forward to the x-corps story. i don't think the x-corps were ever planned to be a long term thing so i don't think we're losing anything there. i'm disappointed that Chamber was dropped so quickly (i'm hoping maybe his name was just left out) only to be replaced by characters that are already in other books. i like that each book had it's own characters (minus wolverine who, irritatingly enough, is in just about every marvel book out there). oh, and that interview said the NEW angel so i'm thinking the one from new x-men. i wonder if the imperial story arc will be over by the time this new dude (chuck austin, i have to learn his name) gets on the books. i'm hoping casey will go out with a bang just to say SO THERE! and i'm also hoping the chamber leaving will be explained and that jubilee will be one of the new characters! WHOO JUBILEE!

[Neolithic]

I'm not sure I follow.

Although, I the "I'm too busy" excuse seems kind of fishy especially with his lackluster run thus far.

I am a sucker for dramatics so I would say he was coerced into leaving. :LOL:

[Michael Heide]

It isn't that rapidly. He'll stay until #409. That's more than half a year.

[Neolithic]

LOL! I love that vomit smiley! I think it sums up Casey's run perfectly! Where'd you find that one?

:joker:

[Grey King]

Casey off.....this is of the good.

I've heard his other work is usually of a much higher standard. Guess he just never clicked.


I have no opinion on Austen as I've never read anything by the guy but Yay! Northstar! and Yay! On/Off Wolverine!.

And really, it would take a lot of effort to shove Northstars sexuality down our throats more than Lobdell did during EoD Remember the subplot with the Mafia guy?
"Maple-Leaf"?

*shudder*

I'd say theres a high chance of Chamber meeting his demise at the end of Caseys run.

And as for who I'd like the two additions to be....
1) Mystique and
2) Multiple Man

[xtremexman]

Originally posted by Michael Heide
It isn't that rapidly. He'll stay until #409. That's more than half a year.

I still say it seems a bit odd.

[Michael Heide]

If Joe had been fired, he wouldn't stay until #409.
I guess, #405 or #406 would have been the maximum.

[xtremexman]

Originally posted by Michael Heide
If Joe had been fired, he wouldn't stay until #409.
I guess, #405 or #406 would have been the maximum.

That's true. After being fired if a writer or artist is in the middle of a project, there will only be a certain number of issues before that individual officially leaves the book.

[ChaosMcKenzie]

Originally posted by ManolisV


i love the americal QAF! what's wrong with it?

I don't have anything against the American QAF as a show, but in terms of it's representation of gay people and the gay lifestyle, it plays on absurd extremes that play to breeder fantasies of a lifestyle not directly understood by them... It glorifies aspects of the "party" community, not just the gay community without dealing with the ramifications or the realistic dramas that come part and parcel with that community (partiers) in the real world...

[cet]

I hardly know what to say....

Well, before anything I just want to wish Casey nothing but luck on all his other projects (his current ones of course and whatever he might be taking on after this). And I hope he gets to finish telling his stories as much to his liking as is possible before he leaves. I may not have been that crazy about all of his issues thus far, but I know he works hard and many people out there do enjoy his work, so I have nothing bad to say about him.

On to this though....I'm actually really excited! I admit I haven't read War Machine, but I loved the work Austin did in Ultimate X-Men with just one issue, so if that is any indication of how he normally writes then I can't wait. :) I liked most of what I read in the article ("people who care about each other"? YES!), and I like the team he's proposing for the most part (please let him be talking about Warren though, as I'd hate to see him go). I'm a little disappointed that Chamber won't be sticking around as I've always liked him, but Nightcrawler, Archangel, Iceman, Xavier (coool), Northstar, and Stacey will all make up for that I think. :D

As for the surprise members, well, if (as a few people have suggested) Mystique turns out to be one of them I will be absolutely estatic! Don't want to say too much more than that or get my hopes up at all, but geez, even the possibility has me excited. :D I haven't enjoyed so much lately (that's just my problem though, not a slam against any writers since I guarantee they're all ten times more talented than me), but I'm really looking forward to seeing how this turns out, even though it is all still in the wait-and-see stages. :)

[Neolithic]

I'm confused as to how people believe Mystique will join? She seems to be more psychotic than ever. Gambit was about to kill her as was Wolverine back when she killed Moira and Kelly. I don't know how she could ever repent for those sins, but if Crawler is on his priest gig he'll give a religious sililoqui and absolve her of it all.

[Kent H]

I really liked Joe's tenure. Actually, I preferred Uncanny to New, and don't read Xtreme or Ultimate. I loved the characterization, how the characters all played off each other, and the directoin his story seemed to be going.

However, I am happy with the replacement. I really liked Chuck's work on War Machine, and while MM:Ghost Rider was lite on plot, it was LOL hysterical. I'm sorta glad he's not doing the art, though. For the most part his art is good, but dang he "draws" some freaky breasts.

Good that he's keeping Stacy, and otherewise keeping the line-up largely the same. I'm not certain how I feel about Chamber leaving, but Northstar's an interesting addition. I seriously doubt Chuck meant the New Angel, since that's her name, not her code name. And Stacy is not Mystique. I really think that's a silly idea.

My theories on the new members:
Scarlet Witch
Juggernaut the bounty hunter (X-Men Forever)
Toad (why not)
Mystique
Some one from the Brotherhood
Some one from the current X-Force (he said shocking, right?)

[ahab26]

Originally posted by Bamfette
and while i really don't care about Northstar, or more specifically his sexuality, as i think he's kind of a walking stereotype...

Northstar actually is a complex character with a rich history. It's only when writers like Scott Lobdell get ahold of him that the gay factor is played up so much. Northstar will be a great addition to the team, as long as Austin doesn't feel the need to have him proclaim his homosexuality at every opportunity. No one else's life on the team (up until Stacey-X, ahem) is so sexually-emphasized, so why should his? Hopefully his inclusion will be done right...

[Brian Wilkinson]

no CHAMBER?!??



(insert as many swear words as possible here)


Otherwise, that sounds pretty cool to me.

and this confirms my theory as to why Northstar was missing in the recent issue of Wolverine.

[Bamfette]

Originally posted by ahab26


Northstar actually is a complex character with a rich history. It's only when writers like Scott Lobdell get ahold of him that the gay factor is played up so much. Northstar will be a great addition to the team, as long as Austin doesn't feel the need to have him proclaim his homosexuality at every opportunity. No one else's life on the team (up until Stacey-X, ahem) is so sexually-emphasized, so why should his? Hopefully his inclusion will be done right...

i hope you are right... apparelntly the only stuff i have read with him has been the ones where he has been as ai said, a wallking stereotype... i sincerely hope Austen dos write him well...

[troy2g1]

Originally posted by Grey King
I'd say theres a high chance of Chamber meeting his demise at the end of Caseys run.


Well I was wondering about this. Since Chamber is composed entirely of psionic energy, wouldnt that mean that he cant die? I mean he was impaled in an ish of UXM and nothing happened so i dont think he can "die"...
HOWEVER, maybe he and Husk end up doing something... Like starting over the XCorps!

[Bamfette]

Originally posted by Magic Rabbit


:yes:

I'm with you Bamfette! I was always hoping that, regardless of all else, Casey would end that ridiculous priest story line. Maybe he will before he leaves: one can only hope.

Magic Rabbit

“Existential void where prohibited.” - Crow T. Robot

well he was certainly building up to SOMETHING involving Nightcrawler and religion... lets jsut hope it IS him leaving the priesthood.. perhaps the return of the swashbuckling swordsman, but after all he's been thru, with a touch of AOA edgyness ;)

[BarbelithXavier]

Xstacy is mistique? What? That's silly. Since when can mistique do that? Secondary mutation?

Was Xstacy inspired by the movie mistique? Maybe. Is she 616 mistique? Nopes.

Eric, a confirmation on the new/arch angel debate would be great.

[xtremexman]

Originally posted by Kent H
I really liked Joe's tenure. Actually, I preferred Uncanny to New, and don't read Xtreme or Ultimate. I loved the characterization, how the characters all played off each other, and the directoin his story seemed to be going.

However, I am happy with the replacement. I really liked Chuck's work on War Machine, and while MM:Ghost Rider was lite on plot, it was LOL hysterical. I'm sorta glad he's not doing the art, though. For the most part his art is good, but dang he "draws" some freaky breasts.

Good that he's keeping Stacy, and otherewise keeping the line-up largely the same. I'm not certain how I feel about Chamber leaving, but Northstar's an interesting addition. I seriously doubt Chuck meant the New Angel, since that's her name, not her code name. And Stacy is not Mystique. I really think that's a silly idea.

My theories on the new members:
Scarlet Witch
Juggernaut the bounty hunter (X-Men Forever)
Toad (why not)
Mystique
Some one from the Brotherhood
Some one from the current X-Force (he said shocking, right?) Why does everybody keep saying that it isn't going to be the new Angel? In the article it even said that it was going to be the new Angel. Did it say Archangel? No. Then Warren will definately not be on the Uncanny team anymore.

Perhaps he is going to New X Men along with Chamber. Who knows? Anything can happen at this point. As for guesses concerning who could be the surprise new members, I have but a few things to say. Scarlet Witch will not be joining the team, because she is currently a member of the Avengers.

Juggernaut was last seen in the pages of Cyclops, and he was attacking Scott alongside his occasional partner in crime Black Tom Cassidy. Toad was last seen in the pages of Wolverine, competing in "The Cage". I believe he got to fight Wolverine... I wonder how that one turned out. Another of your guesses was Mystique. HELLO!

XStacy is Mystique! Hasn't that been made perfectly clear already? Sorry, but I just had to say that.

[Joey Meyers]

Originally posted by troy2g1


Well I was wondering about this. Since Chamber is composed entirely of psionic energy, wouldnt that mean that he cant die? I mean he was impaled in an ish of UXM and nothing happened so i dont think he can "die"...
HOWEVER, maybe he and Husk end up doing something... Like starting over the XCorps!

Y'know, I actually wouldn't mind seeing something to that affect, Paige and Jono just walking off into the sunset or something to that affect, deciding to "retire" so to speak, from the superhero game for abit.

[Bamfette]

I would love... LOVE to see Mystique on the team... the interactions between her and Nightcrawler and Iceman would be priceless... poor crawler, but it would make for good stories and we may get the straight dirt on his origin once and for all.

but the rumour of her being Stacy is jsut that, a rumour. and a patently ridiculous one... i should know, i had a hand in forming said rumour over at the old X-Fan... it was a fun theory but nothing more, we were jsut having fun :)

[loganalpha30x3]

Now I still think that it's Archangel that'll be on the team, since using the new one would be getting into what Morrison is doing and I thought that was to be avoided. Now as to the two new members I think it'll either be a former villian, or somebody back from the dead, otherwise it's not really a surprise, maybe the new people could be one of these people, Magneto, resurrected Psylocke, resurrected Colossus, Mystique, Havok and Polaris, or maybe even a member of the Xtreme team. I'll go now..................

[xtremexman]

Originally posted by BarbelithXavier
Xstacy is mistique? What? That's silly. Since when can mistique do that? Secondary mutation?

Was Xstacy inspired by the movie mistique? Maybe. Is she 616 mistique? Nopes.

Eric, a confirmation on the new/arch angel debate would be great.

Yes, XStacy is Mystique. A lot of people seem to think so. It is a common debate that is going on right now. Personally, I think it is true. I mean, think of the coincidences.

Mystique disappears from the infirmary around the same time that XStacy shows up? Come on! That alone should say it all. There is a lot more that has been said concerning the issue, but I can't exactly remember it all at the moment.

[SkullAngel]

I have to agree with most in that Casey never did really seem to click with Uncanny. His Wildcats issues were great and I'm eagerly waiting for the new series, but I think it's better that he's off Uncanny.

Now, ya wanna know what makes Northstar's addition to the X-Men so great? HE'S NOT YET ANOTHER BRAND NEW CHARACTER! Yes, he's a new member, but he's an established character with years of history! That's what makes it cool. It's kinda good to see Austen use an existing character rather than being like every other new X-Men writer and creating another new character.

Now if only we could have had Sabra join ...

[AlyxNsac]

Maybe the X-corps could expand, and become it's own title. YEA NORTHSTAR IS BACK! :)
Magik should come back, although not as Amanda Sefton, Dazzler and Cecilia should return as well, but who would send tremors through us all? My money is on Dazzler or Magik, as they've been request so darn much, alongside Northstar, that it would be very sensible. Maybe they're actually listening to us now, or maybe sales on Uncanny dropped so bad they're desperate. Anyways hope the new artist doesn't stay, they should recruit Arthur Adams, he'd breathe new life into the otherwise dead title.

[Joey Meyers]

Arthur Adams would be nice as an artist. Who knows, maybe he could bring back his co-creation, Longshot too.

[Kent H]

Originally posted by xtremexman


Yes, XStacy is Mystique. A lot of people seem to think so. It is a common debate that is going on right now. Personally, I think it is true. I mean, think of the coincidences.

Mystique disappears from the infirmary around the same time that XStacy shows up? Come on! That alone should say it all. There is a lot more that has been said concerning the issue, but I can't exactly remember it all at the moment.

You know, in court that would be called circumstantial evidence. Most courts don't acknowledge circumstantial evidence without hard facts backing it up.

Like Bamfette said, it's only a rumor, and one with little grounding in reality. Just because a lot of people think this rumor is true it doesn't mean it is.

Also, it occurs to me that Geoff Johns is starting on Avengers around the same time that Chuck starts Uncanny. So it's entirely possible that Geoff could decide to give Wanda to Chuck. Or Kurt could always drop her before.

[xtremexman]

Originally posted by Kent H


You know, in court that would be called circumstantial evidence. Most courts don't acknowledge circumstantial evidence without hard facts backing it up.

Like Bamfette said, it's only a rumor, and one with little grounding in reality. Just because a lot of people think this rumor is true it doesn't mean it is.

Also, it occurs to me that Geoff Johns is starting on Avengers around the same time that Chuck starts Uncanny. So it's entirely possible that Geoff could decide to give Wanda to Chuck. Or Kurt could always drop her before.

I don't really think that Scarlet Witch is going to be joining Uncanny, though. I mean, she really doesn't belong on the team.

[Brian Wilkinson]

I personally don't think that it's mystique. So she disappeared at the same time... there are HUNDREDS of Marvel characters in limbo at any given time... don't get sucked in by coincidence.


and besides, it seems like a very odd secondary mutation, and there would be no point (at this time) for mystique to infiltrate the team.

She has no mission at this point.


:rolleyes:

[Bamfette]

I can't believe the Stacy/Mystique rumour is still going... :) gad that was a fun discussion... but you do realize i don't think anyone over in the old discussion on this subject actually took it seriously? i know i didn't, and i was one of the original Stacy is Mystique posters over at the old X-Fan... we were just having fun posing wild theories...

[Anthony Zisa]

Originally posted by DDMorgan
I'm simply asking the question everyone else is thinking. Besides, I want to hear why Joe Casey is off Uncanny X-Men suddenly .

Perhaps he finally got tired of the babyish antics of the immature pricks who said ignorant crap like "Who's going to pay me to run Joe Casey over with a truck" and "Casey is a talentless hack whom my little brother could write better than." It's very possible he went, "Forget it, this isn't worth it, why should I work on company owned characters that will get me nothing but grief when I could be working on my own, creator-owned work?"

Besides, the point that was being made was that, one way or another, this isn't any of our business. He's off the book, concern should stop there. Does it make him any more or less gone if he left voluntarily or if he was fired?

- A

[xtremexman]

Originally posted by The7thParallel
I personally don't think that it's mystique. So she disappeared at the same time... there are HUNDREDS of Marvel characters in limbo at any given time... don't get sucked in by coincidence.


and besides, it seems like a very odd secondary mutation, and there would be no point (at this time) for mystique to infiltrate the team.

She has no mission at this point.


:rolleyes:

Well, I guess you are right. She would seem more likely to get involved with the X Treme team anyway.

[Bamfette]

Originally posted by Neolithic
I'm confused as to how people believe Mystique will join? She seems to be more psychotic than ever. Gambit was about to kill her as was Wolverine back when she killed Moira and Kelly. I don't know how she could ever repent for those sins, but if Crawler is on his priest gig he'll give a religious sililoqui and absolve her of it all.


oh PLEASE say you are joking...

serioulsy i would live to see mystique simply beause of all the trouble and tension she chould bring to the team. her MO has always been self preservation, she is selfish, her needs always came first, others be damned. so that is how she could come to join, something could happen so it was in her best interest to join up and play along... atleast for a while. or atleast *pretend* to go along... either way, the interactions between her and the team would be great

[xtremexman]

Originally posted by xpawn


Hi, Sean :) You and Casey are one of the greatest creator team-ups in recent years! I'll definitely be checking out projects by both of you.

Keep drawing, Sean!

I am looking forward to seeing his work on Uncanny X Men myself.

[AlyxNsac]

A friend of mine made a good point, maybe Avalance will join, as he'd definitley send "tremors", lol! I hope not though. Rachel isn't likely as they already have a Phoenix on the main team, and she's supposed to be in X-Treme. Cecelia, Dazzler and Magik make the most sense. As for X-Stacy being Mystique....., is there anything conclusion people won't make? That's totally unplausible.

[bishop-xse1]

Can Chamber still get that [ICON] mini Series if he's no longer an X-men .....this must be one hell of a monkey wrench for the creative team....damn that must hurt :D :p

[Iceboy Ben]

Ok, here's my two cents on the proposed Uncanny lineup Chuck Austen has announced...

In

-Nightcrawler
Good call. This is the character Casey did best in terms of developing, so Austen won't have to do any damage control.

-Iceman
Phew. After X-Men Forever, Bobby has mad potential, potential that Casey only scratched the surface of and that his awful mini-series completely ignored; plenty of potential stories and also the potential to be a strong leader given that he's one of the longest running X-Men (he did great work back during OZT).

-Angel
Ugh. I feel this must be an editorial decision, because she hasn't appeared enough that anybody but Morrison, her creator, would have much affinity for her. Personally, I don't like the character, and would just as soon see her go away or at least stay in the weird world of New X-Men.

-XStacy
Eh, she's been growing on me, I'll give her a shot. I dunno about having two unorthodox looking women on the same team, but who knows, could work.

-Prof. X
Cool, in my view he's the one character that should be in two books. Bobby and Warren are the only two of his original students he never seems to interact with, so I'm interested to see how he'll treat his youngest.

-Northstar
Yes! Awesome character, sexuality or not. But addressing his sexuality will make for some good stories.

-Wolverine off/on
I'd say just let him be in his multitude of other books if he's only off & on; the only thing I can see coming from this is more Mr. Clean situations where the rest of the team blows and Wolvie saves the day.

-The mystery characters
Setting the clues aside, I'd personaly like to see Dazzler & Cannonball

Out

-Archangel
Can't say I'll miss him; I've been saying Warren is played for months, and he's really brought nothing to the book. I'm not usually an advocate of killing characters, but without his metallic wings, dark persona, or relationship with Betsy, probably the best kind of impact Warren could have is to die.

-Chamber
Unfortunate, he has real potential. I've actualy liked him during the Casey run and that's saying something; he could play well off just about every other member of the team. Hopefully he'll get another shot someday.

Your thoughts?

[ZOD]

Originally posted by lonewolf21
Arthur Adams would be nice as an artist. Who knows, maybe he could bring back his co-creation, Longshot too.

I agree. Art Adams would be a great addition on Uncanny. Although, I beleive DC snatched him up with an exclusive contract a few months back :( . And in response to the two new mystery members, I'm hoping for maybe at least Polaris. I have no clue about the one who will cause "tremors".

ZOD ;)

[mistersinister]

Originally posted by anthonyzisa


Perhaps he finally got tired of the babyish antics of the immature pricks who said ignorant crap like "Who's going to pay me to run Joe Casey over with a truck" and "Casey is a talentless hack whom my little brother could write better than." It's very possible he went, "Forget it, this isn't worth it, why should I work on company owned characters that will get me nothing but grief when I could be working on my own, creator-owned work?"

Besides, the point that was being made was that, one way or another, this isn't any of our business. He's off the book, concern should stop there. Does it make him any more or less gone if he left voluntarily or if he was fired?

- A

Do you really think that a professional writer, with tons of top-shelf credits on his resume would quit writing the #1 book in the industry because a couple of hundred hardcore fans on the internet (representing maybe .001% of the total readership) ripped him on a message board?

There's no way that Joe Casey is that sensitive (not that I've actually met him, mind you). The first thing that you realize as a creative person/performer is to accept, get over, and learn from your failures, because you'll have a lot more failures than successes in life.

Of course it matters whether Joe was fired or quit. The former indicates that the powers-that-be were unsatisfied with Casey's run, meaning that they expect better for their fans. The latter indicates that Casey got bored or frustrated with the gig, but that Marvel though he was doing fine.

[bsh12]

This is great! I think they gave Casey a fair shake but the fact of the matter is that the story's were some of the worst ever. As for Austen well this also is great I Loved Chuck's Gohst Rider Manga,Ultimate X-Men and War Machine and with Northstar entering and hopefully Polaris and Havok entering the future is bright my freinds.

[ZOD]

Originally posted by Iceboy Ben

-Angel
Ugh. I feel this must be an editorial decision, because she hasn't appeared enough that anybody but Morrison, her creator, would have much affinity for her. Personally, I don't like the character, and would just as soon see her go away or at least stay in the weird world of New X-Men.



I beleive that Chuck was referring to Warren when he meant Angel. Warren has been referred to as Angel for most of his mutant career. While flygirl been in about 2 issues so far.

ZOD ;)

[Ken Boehm]

As long as Cyke and Beast stay with Morrison, I'm happy.

I hope Austin's term of "on and off" with Wolverine means more off less on.

[iceman2002]

are we sure that [arch]angel isn't going to be on the tea