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Jim Lemoine
Jun 17, 2004, 01:48 am
<img src="http://www.comixfan.com/xfan/images/logos/cfdlogo.jpg" align=left border=0 alt="Comics For Dummies logo">By Raul Grau, RJacknite@aol.com

Patrolling the Doomed

DC loves revamps. Absolutely loves them. I'm sure the editors at DC are never happier than when they are refashioning a character with a new, wider audience in mind. However, I'm not talking about the 'Check out my hip new costume' revamps, or even the 'Check out my hip new female sidekick' revamps. I'm talking about the 'To save the village, we have to burn the village' revamps that DC excels at. The latest example of that scorched Earth technique for storytelling is the return of the Doom Patrol.

Now I am sure that quite a few of you could not care less what happens to the Doom Patrol, so let me put it to you this way. What if Marvel decided that Ultimate X-Men would now be accepted as the true continuity, and that no other X-Men stories ever occurred? How would you feel? Ok, now I have your attention.

<img src="http://www.comixfan.com/xfan/images/columns/cfd/cfd1-1.jpg" align=right border=0 alt="My Greatest Adventure #80">The Doom Patrol saga began innocently enough. It was the tender and heartfelt tale of four average Americans: a paraplegic Machiavellian scientist, a (literally) giant former movie starlet, a former test pilot with a mummy-fied look, and a race car driver who only had a brain... inside his oversized, orange robotic body. The Chief, Negative Man, Elasti-Girl, and Robotman were the Doom Patrol, and, if you happen to take a look at DC's solicitations for June, they are the Doom Patrol again. I'd be ecstatic, if I were not already so disturbed.

My complaint is fairly simple- the team has not comprised of that lineup in over 30 years. In fact, Elasti-Girl has been doing a very reasonable impersonation of a deceased character for precisely that long, so it does seem fairly bizarre to simply resurrect her. It would be like Marvel deciding to bring back together the original members of the X-Men, in an obviously contrived attempt to tap into some sort of nostalgic vein. Certainly contrived, because such a reunion would have to happen regardless of what the individual members had been doing at that time, and whether or not all the members were even still alive. If one of them were dead, Marvel would have to concoct some sort of storyline to revive him... or her, if the dearly departed one happened to be the only female member of that original team. Hmmm...

<img src="http://www.comixfan.com/xfan/images/columns/cfd/cfd1-2.jpg" align=right border=0 alt="JLA Year One #5">To make matters worse, the DP is being returned precisely as they were in 1968, completely foreign to the other inhabitants of the DC Universe. That would be entirely forgivable, if not for the fact that the members of the Doom Patrol had previously encountered nearly every major character in the DC Universe (sometimes, it's the little things that matter). Before he became the bandaged Negative Man, Larry Trainer flew test planes with his good friend and friendly rival, Hal Jordan (you may have heard of him). Doctor Will Magnus (now one-sixth of Enginehead) was responsible for several retrofits to the chassis of Cliff Steele (the always tragic Robotman), and for keeping Niles Caulder (The Chief) alive, cryogenically speaking. The entire JLoA was in attendance at the wedding of Patrollers Steve Dayton (the sometimes mentally sound Mento) and Rita Farr (the doomed Doom dame, Elasti-Girl). It is interesting to note that the couple was raising their foster child, Garfield Logan, together at that time. If Gar had just remained a minor character, this revamp might actually go a bit more smoothly.

Regardless of your level of DC fandom, you might have heard of Gar Logan. He's an animated practical joker, and a sucker for pretty blondes. He is also green and possesses the ability to transform into a menagerie of animal life. Beast Boy (I'm sure you all pieced together my huge, obvious hints, right?)... ahem, Beast Boy may be best know as a Titan, but he began as one of the Doom'd, so Gar will need a whole new origin now. Of course, DC could always reintroduce him as a new character as well, if not for the slight hitch of him already appearing monthly in an ongoing title. Sadly, we can't be sure that will ever be enough to keep a character's history intact.

Besides Beast Boy, it can be argued that the greatest contributions the Doom Patrol made to the rest of the DCU were the very concept of the comic book noble sacrifice, and hermaphrodites. Since I'm sure you're all clamoring to hear more about the meaning of heroism, the hermaphrodites can wait.

<img src="http://www.comixfan.com/xfan/images/columns/cfd/cfd1-3.jpg" align=right border=0 alt="Doom Patrol #121">The Patrol were always written as the ultimate outsiders, freaks even among other freaks. The members of that original team never chose to be different, and they would have traded their exceptional abilities to be normal again, yet they fought for a world that hated and feared them (that sounds so familiar). In their last stand, they were called upon to make an impossible choice- their lives or the lives of a village of strangers they would never meet. The four persecuted, tortured souls choose to die for those strangers, and every hero since has had to live in their shadow. Of course, this being a DC series, only three of the four remained dead, but Elasti-Girl became the 'dead means dead' poster child, and thankfully never crawled from her grave. To bring her back would completely cheapen the very spirit of that most powerful of stories... and look who's back.

In the decades that followed, many other heroes may have emulated the model of the noble death that had been put forward by the Patrollers (I'm looking at you, Phoenix), but no other mainstream title can say that they were first with another bold concept- the hermaphroditic hero. Many of you are probably familiar with the work of the pseduoscience-loving evil clone of Grant Morrison, who has recently been spotted on the JLA and X-Men franchise, but in the late 80's, Doom Patrol became the home of the real Grant Morrison, the consciousness-expanding existentialist who was still actively defining the future of what a comic book would become. The title had sunk into a low period of typical heroism-as-usual, when Grant came along, beginning his psychosexual headtrip of a run. He retooled the team's origins (without ignoring what had come before), he radically altered the characters (including the merger of Negative 'Man' with his very female doctor, to produce Rebis, a hero greater than the sum of his/her/its/their parts), and most importantly, he told wonderful stories. Apparently, you can be bold and different, without steamrolling over the past... who knew?

<img src="http://www.comixfan.com/xfan/images/columns/cfd/cfd1-4.jpg" align=right border=0 alt="Doom Patrol (Vol. 2) #19">Now this is certainly not the first time that DC has thrown the baby out with the bathwater, as far as continuity goes. Superboy and Supergirl were erased from existence during the Crisis on Infinite Earths, taking all their past adventures with them, only to have both return during the 90's. However, the new Boy and Girl of Steel were not the Kryptonian youths of old, but wholly original characters, with the only similarities to their forebears being their codenames and hair colors.

A very similar approach had been applied decades earlier, with the initial introductions of the Silver Age set of DC heroes. This new Flash was Barry Allen, a forensic scientist, not Jay Garrick, another kind of forensic scientist. The new Atom was Ray Palmer, a researcher, not Al Pratt, a... it's odd, but most Golden Age heroes had no day jobs. This new Green Lantern was Hal Jordan, a test pilot, not Alan Scott, a radio announcer (finally, a real contrast), and so on. Clearly different characters, only linked by names and (occasionally) similar powers. That type of revamp cam be very troubling for fans of the original incarnations, but at least the new creations are... well, new.

A much more frustrating approach is to remove some (or even all) of a character's history, yet keep the character fundamentally intact. Following Crisis, the origin of Superman was radically rewritten by John Byrne (make a mental note of that name), resulting in an indeterminable number of Supes stories which may not have occurred (indeterminable, because we were left to guess which ones to keep). Another continuity-crushing crossover led to the complete removal of over 30 years of Legion of Super-Heroes tales, but at least we could all take some comfort in the knowledge that the Legion inhabited a future timeline, and future timelines are wont to vanish. Yes, the team I had followed for years were suddenly and completely gone, but at least fictional characters were just as confused and frustrated as I was (read the Legion members' trip to the modern era during the late 90s to see several confused expressions on Superman's face).

Compared to the current Doom doings, there is only one revamp in the whole of DCs checkered past that came as more of a slap in the face to the fans, and that was the final fate of the Earth-1 Wonder Woman (I'm sorry, I meant the Earth's one Wonder Woman... silly me, how could there have be an Earth-1, if there was only ever one Earth?). During the oftmentioned Crisis, the modern age Wonder Woman was killed, but we soon learned that meant she had never existed in the first place. Soon after, she finally made her 'debut,' but none of her earlier tales had ever taken place (of course, no one missed the Egg Fu saga... ask your parents).

For some strange reason, a seemingly minor change (like taking one of the longest-running comic characters out of existence) had far reaching ramifications. Wonder Woman was no longer on hand for the founding of the JLA, so the younger Black Canary was picked to fill her place in heroic history. (The Golden Age Wonder Woman had also fallen through the cracks of comic time, but a decade later, she would be retroactively recreated by a writer known as John Byrne... remember him?) In addition, every character in the DCU now predated the modern Wonder Woman as a character, including her former sidekick, Wonder Girl (the very confused Donna Troy). It would take many years for Donna to receive a new (and stable) origin, and that happened mere months before she was finally killed off. Why does Beast Boy have to become another Donna Troy?

<img src="http://www.comixfan.com/xfan/images/columns/cfd/cfd1-5.jpg" align=right border=0 alt="The new/old Doom Patrol from JLA and the new series">Now, of course, I am being just a wee bit reactionary, venting about an alteration that is still in the midst of being explained. We have only seen glimpse of this 'unknown' Doom Patrol, and the monthly title that will (hopefully) explain these changes is still a month away. Perhaps the series will come with a logical and calming rationale for why years of stories are now being ignored. Perhaps it will all be a hoax, or an imaginary story. Perhaps John Byrne will appease... oh, that's right, I had not mentioned that. Byrne is the writer of this fourth volume of the Doom Patrol saga... worried yet?

Doom Patrol is a truly unique team with a very rich and complex past. It has survived the deaths of nearly every member (some more than once), and three previous and nearly forgotten series. Perhaps someone will find a way to incorporate that past into this new present, and weave tales which appeal to both old and new fans alike. However, for now, it seems like DC believes that to save the team, they have to Byrne the team.

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Raul Grau doesn't understand why this team of weirdoes and freaks led by a know-it-all in a wheelchair did not become as popular as that other one. He is most afraid that this revamp may mean that Coagula, the greatest transgendered heroine, may never get her own series.

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The opinions expressed in this column are solely those of the writer, and are not reflective of ComiX-Fan or its other staff in general.

Dylan McKay
Jun 17, 2004, 02:07 am
I hate writers who can't leave the past in the past. What happened happened, move on.

I'd love to hear the phone conversation between Geoff Johns and his editor after this was decided upon.

"Yeah, you know that history that Beast Boy has that makes him such a rich and interesting character? It no longer exists."

Kevin Sutton
Jun 17, 2004, 02:21 am
Yeah... the Doom patrol thing is a mess.

Maybe they can get away with it though for a newer audience. Out side of the DC hardcore readers... who remembers the intricate continuity connections? (Then again, they're kind of the target audience for any superhero comic anyway...)

It's a leap of internal logic, but DC's history tends to show some success at this, or least an ability to avoid serious commercial consequences as a result.

Zeb Aslam
Jun 17, 2004, 04:17 am
Finally! Go Raul! Been waiting for this column for quite some time now. I totally agree...to a point. I personally never really cared for the Doom Patrol, they just seemed too X-meny to me(yes I know they were first, but I read them second, so it was old news to me). But this does affect Beast Boy, one of my all time fav characters, a character who I would :shudder: hate to see turn into another Donna Troy!

Also, finally, someone else who remembers the dreck that was Egg Fu...

Dan Porter
Jun 17, 2004, 04:26 am
I'd just like to say that this column is great! I'm particularly impressed by the vast expanse of knowledge and continuity from which Raul gathered his facts; it seems he knows what he's talking about. (a good thing) ;)

Very informative, scathingly humorous, it was just the right medicine to keep me awake at 2 in the morning. :D (It worked a hell of a lot better than a bottle of pepsi... that just made me get all sleepy)

Really, this is an awesome column! I loved the final gag there (about Byrne-ing the team... rofl!) and the expert display of continuital (sp?) info.

Perfect debut! Keep it up!

-DPorter

Qubic
Jun 17, 2004, 04:35 am
Good article and I can't believe DC would throw out all the past storys like they've done in the past but oh well, so, how long do you think this DP will last?

raul grau
Jun 17, 2004, 05:14 am
Thanks for the kind words, guys. I'm just happy to have my very own corner to rant from. :)

Originally posted by Zeb Aslam
Also, finally, someone else who remembers the dreck that was Egg Fu...

I'm sure it seemed like a great idea... take Wonder Woman, remove her powers, train her in martial arts, and... no, wait, now I remember why it was terrible.

Originally posted by Dan Porter
it seems he knows what he's talking about.

Yes, it does seem that way, doesn't it? Chalk it up to a misspent youth of buying comics.

- Raul

Ryan Day
Jun 17, 2004, 12:55 pm
There are parts of this I agree and disagree with.

I do think it's silly that DC and Marvel keep re-using old concepts that were never terribly successful in the first place. Firestorm, Doom Patrol, Iron Fist... Concepts keep getting revised, re-tooled and re-booted, and nobody seems to care all that much. Why not spend the time and energy creating something new? (oh, right - new characters sell even worse than historically mediocre ones)

But there is a time and place for jettisoning history. It becomes necessary once characters have been around for a certain time. How do you explain that Superman was around during World War II? Okay, he's an alien... but Lois Lane and Jimmy Olsen should be senior citizens. At a certain point, the Punisher will no longer be feasible as a Vietnam veteran; how can a man who was a soldier in the 1960s still be fighting crime in 2010?

There's sheer practicality to consider, too. Is it really worth keeping track of 30, 40, 50 or even 60 years worth of stories? How much effort is supposed to go into making sure this month's issue of X-Men is consistent with an annual 25 years ago?

James Groves
Jun 17, 2004, 02:59 pm
Never read Doom Patrol so i'll be going into it with new eyes.

So continuity wont really be an issue with me.

Is continuity really THAT important?

raul grau
Jun 17, 2004, 05:18 pm
Originally posted by Ryan Day
I do think it's silly that DC and Marvel keep re-using old concepts that were never terribly successful in the first place. Firestorm, Doom Patrol, Iron Fist

All three of the ones you mentioned were very popular at one time, each having combined runs of over 100 issues. The glut of DC titles in the 80s, the aforementioned death of the entire team, and the passing of the martial arts fad spelled the doom of those three respectively, but they did (and might still) have a large and loyal fanbase. And several returns of formerly failed titles have had massive success... for example, a little team called the X-Men.

Originally posted by Ryan Day
How do you explain that Superman was around during World War II? Okay, he's an alien... but Lois Lane and Jimmy Olsen should be senior citizens.

A sliding timeline is one thing, but wholly removing the past is another. Sure, it no longer makes sense that Tony Stark was in Korea during that war, but at least he was still wounded in a Southeast asian country. If Marvel suddenly decided that his original heart injury came when he slipped in the tub, that might be a problem.

Originally posted by Ryan Day
How much effort is supposed to go into making sure this month's issue of X-Men is consistent with an annual 25 years ago?

I would say that it depends. If that annual revealed that a certain character once wore contact lenses, and the new story is centered around the fact that he never used any sort of corrective lenses, I would let that slide (though I'm sure other, more rabid fans would not). If, however, a character had a triumphant death in that annual, and now he's back with no explanation and no notice from the other characters, then I think the writers would have some 'splaing to do.

Personally, I just don't see the point of giving a character a complex backstory if it's just going to be ignored.

- Raul

Dylan McKay
Jun 17, 2004, 08:55 pm
Originally posted by pokerman
Never read Doom Patrol so i'll be going into it with new eyes.

So continuity wont really be an issue with me.

Is continuity really THAT important?

Continuity provides a framework. Many people find guidelines to be liberating and actually grant more freedom than a blank slate. That's how continuity should work in an established property.

Beast Boy's adopted parents now never existed. Now in the context of Teen Titans continuity is no longer a framework but an obsticle with thorns sticking out of it. It limits creativity and makes story telling difficult. Continuity should not do that.

QBBEADLE
Jun 17, 2004, 09:21 pm
The main problem I have with this revamp is that DC is trying to follow Marvel's example and make "Ultimate" Doom Patrol, for lack of a better term. Unfortunately, the higher-ups have decided not to take the extra effort to create a new universe for their "Ultimate" team and instead decided to just throw them into the regular continuity, regardless of how little sense it makes. Not to mention that the introduction of the new Doom Patrol was a crappy story that is going to be continued in the monthly. Why would anyone want to buy a new, boring title with sub-par writing after the characters introduction in JLA had no emotional significance whatsoever??

Like Raul said, the members of the Doom Patrol have lived (and died) along with the rest of the DCU for decades. It makes absolutely no sense to me how the entire JLA had no idea who the Doom Patrol were. After finally re-vamping the JLA's continuity with JLA: Year One so that it made sense, now we're supposed to ignore the 4 issues that the Doom Patrol fought with the fledgling Justice League?? I mean, J'onn J'onz has known the Doom Patrol longer than he's known half the members of the League!! Ignoring continuity to garner new interest is one thing, but something on this scale, that has such far reaching affects across the DCU is just stupid. I'm ranting, I know, but this is just mind boggling.

JCP
Jun 17, 2004, 10:40 pm
DC continuity is notoriously convoluted. What I find deeply ironic is that DC made a huge fuss surrounding revamping the history of Hawkman in JSA a few of years ago; another character who was practically destroyed by ill-conceived continuity tampering. Now they are committing the same fatal error with the Doom Patrol – a group that arguably has had more impact on the early history of the DCU than the Hawks. I definitely feel a Donna Troy coming on. Speaking of the Wonder Woman mythos I still can’t quite accept the whole golden age Wonder Woman thing being ret-conned by Bryne into the current DCU – I loved the WWII era Wonder Woman but it just doesn’t work the in modern DCU. As Raul indicated Byrne does not have a great history with this kind of thing and it seems odd to me that the powers that be are giving him another opportunity to confuse and baffle long-term readers.

DKBatman
Jun 18, 2004, 02:34 am
I've never read Doom Patrol. Once the Grant Morrison trades hit in september I will start, but until then this is foreign territory. Still, Byrne thinks he can do anything he wants, and that his comic mastery will make for a grand new beginning for every dc or marvel hero(es) he touches. Well, mo offense, but the last time Byrne was interesting was when he did Man of Steel, and even then, with DK returns and Watchmen around, his style was rediculously outdated for an attempt at modernization. Yeah, I'd say his retro-fits, the one he has everytime he starts a new project, are extremely detrimental for comics. No one complains when Loeb and Sale update history because they do it well. It's when it isn't any good, and has no hope of being any good that people start complaining. Still, if morrison were to head back to Doom Patrol, I think current fans would follow.

Yeah... but I think it might be a positive if Ultimate Xmen were to replace current continuity. Xmen continuity has been super-inconsistant, and the recent reversals of carefully plotted, change-minded attempts at organizing a new and less convoluted future for the x people (by morrison), we have a return of Magneto and Xorn, with no connection made between them. Some restarts are a great thing for comics--and bring in new readers. But bringing back the original doom patrol, destroying continuity and not admitting to it, can only be seen as a bad thing. It'll last a week, fans will kill it, and Byrne will retire. I wish.

Magic Rabbit
Jun 18, 2004, 04:18 am
Originally posted by DKBatman
Yeah... but I think it might be a positive if Ultimate Xmen were to replace current continuity. Xmen continuity has been super-inconsistant, and the recent reversals of carefully plotted, change-minded attempts at organizing a new and less convoluted future for the x people (by morrison), we have a return of Magneto and Xorn, with no connection made between them. Some restarts are a great thing for comics--and bring in new readers. But bringing back the original doom patrol, destroying continuity and not admitting to it, can only be seen as a bad thing. It'll last a week, fans will kill it, and Byrne will retire. I wish.


You are speaking my mind here! Sure, sure, I love the regular, ever-changing history in the core books as much as the next fan, but Ultimate offers something completely different. Wipe the slates clean and star over. Since we all know that most writers won’t kill off characters and start new, but would rather resurrect characters (coughJeanGreycough) and rehash storylines, getting a brand new twist to the stories (and keeping it) seems like such a refreshing idea.

Doom Patrol maybe more of a continuity nightmare than Xmen. And there maybe no cure for what ails it.

Great column BTW Raul. Right more. I dare ya.


Magic Rabbit

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JCP
Jun 18, 2004, 04:34 am
It seems to me that the ultimate titles are a entirely different kind of revamp. There is no attempt with them to alter existing continuity so both new and old fans can enjoy them in their own right. I find the ultimate titles refreshing; they have breathed new life into old concepts. Byrne is not doing this with the Doom Patrol. His 'fresh take' is at the expense of decades of continuity (even if we only take post-crisis continuity as valid). He is committing one of the fundamental sins of fantasy/science fiction authors. He is flouting the internal laws and norms of the universe in which he is operating, however convenient this may be for him creatively, it is somewhat contemptuous of the fans who suddenly find that many of the stories they know and love are somehow null and void.

gideonstargrave
Jun 18, 2004, 08:27 am
Whats annoying is that there is no need for this reboot at all! All they had to do is have this new Doom Patrol stroll in from a parrallel universe. The originals are back. The rest of the DCU says "Where ther hell did you come from?", quick explanation, begin brand new stories. No continuity erased, no continuity baggage. Byrne can do what he wants. Longterm fans get to keep the old patrol.

Anthony Cordova
Jun 18, 2004, 06:12 pm
Fantastic column.

Jon Hancock
Jun 18, 2004, 10:14 pm
Lovely stuff Raul.

I agree with you whole heartedly. I'm also gutted about the fact that now the new doom patrol has disappeared. I loved that series. bye negative man II :(

Means that I have to rewrite Beast Boy's bio too :(

Jen Renee
Jun 19, 2004, 12:02 am
A very clever column. I enjoyed it. ;)

raul grau
Jun 19, 2004, 04:48 am
Why thank you all. I just hope that you all enjoy the next installment as much, as I have not yet decided precisely what it will be about. :)

Originally posted by gideonstargrave
All they had to do is have this new Doom Patrol stroll in from a parrallel universe. The originals are back..No continuity erased, no continuity baggage... Longterm fans get to keep the old patrol.

That reminds me of what Giffen attempted to set up in his last run on the Legion of Super-Heroes. You already had the older team, and then he introduced younger versions of all the heroes, who were free of all the baggage of the real Legion. And new readers did hop aboard when the younger set got their own, separate title, so your idea has merit, gideon.

Of course, both sets of Legionnaires were later erased, and then the original members were reintroduced from scratch. Like I said, DC loves revamps.

- Raul

Jon Hancock
Jun 19, 2004, 05:00 am
how about making comics for dummies solely based on introducing the wonders of the DCU Raul?

raul grau
Jun 19, 2004, 05:43 am
There will be a bit of a focus on DC, Jon, simply because I have traditionally enjoyed their books more than those of most other publishers (though, I must admit, that is not currently the case). However, I plan on occasionally discussing broader topics, which will probably be the case with the next installment.

- Raul

Anthony Lucynski
Jun 19, 2004, 10:27 am
Being a relative newbie to the DCU, this is going to be a great informative column. I look foreward to more, thanks for the information!

Anthony L

hondo
Jul 1, 2004, 03:06 am
I LOVE the Doom Patrol. To be honest, this last incarnation was lacking but I am totally pumped about Byrne's DP ! I think he will have the potential to hit some highs like he hasn't in 20 years with the FF.

Continuity on both companies parts has been inconsistent. Editors come and go, management changes, maybe contintuity restricts telling an otherwise really great story.

I don't follow it so closely any more. I pick and choose what I want to incorporate or not. It lessens the headaches. Besides, if you do get settled on continuity, it'll change soon. There should be continuity to a degree, but I'm all for telling new versions of older characters. Geoff Johns approaches it best : "If I tell this story, it'll be great except that it will contradict this past event. How could I explain it so it makes sense ?" That to me is the best way but often even the writers and editors can't even keep up so eventually they defer to : "Who's going to notice anyway and what does it matter ?" For every person they offend with some small inconsistency, they probably bring at least 3 onboard by helping to clear up some previous point of contention or confusion.

What I really hope for is that Byrne will address the previous DP elements besides the original Drake / Premiani run and acknowledge the other runs and incorporate some of what was good, like quite a bit of Grant Morrison's run. He would do it differently I'm sure, but I would love to see Byrne incorporate Danny the Street or Crazy Jane.

Here is a great spot for newbies to get their DP on :

http://www.monkeysvsrobots.com/mvsrpm/doompatrol_comments.php?id=P127_0_24_0_C