View Full Version : FABLES #24 REVIEW
Dan Porter
Apr 16, 2004, 12:30 am
<a href="http://www.comixfan.com/xfan/images/previews/dc/0404/FablesCVR24.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://www.comixfan.com/xfan/images/previews/dc/0404/FablesCVR24t.jpg" align="left" alt="Fables #24"></a><b>Reviewer</b>: Daniel F. Porter, dan@jpporter.com
<b>Quick Rating</b>: Excellent!
<b>Story Title</b>: "March of the Wooden Soldiers, Chapter Five: The Letter"
<b>Suggested for mature readers.</b>
This comic rocks, plain and simple... Read on if you don't believe me.
<b>Written by</b>: Bill Willingham
<b>Pencils by</b>: Mark Buckingham
<b>Inks by</b>: Steve Leialoha
<b>Colors by</b>: Daniel Vozzo
<b>Letters by</b>: Todd Klein
<b>Cover Art</b>: James Jean
<b>Assistant Editor</b>: Mariah Huehner
<b>Editor</b>: Shelly Bond
I sure hope nobody minds if I take a bit to plug this book.
I've got an excercise for those of you who aren't reading <i><b>Fables</b></i> yet. It's fairly simple, just repeat after me: "Fables is the best book <u>ever</u>. Fables is the best book <u>ever</u>." And I want you to repeat that until you're blue in the face. Because <i><b>Fables</b></i> is, quite frankly, the greatest comic creation since Wolfman and Perez went nuts with the DCU in 1985. Fables is entertainment at its best; you can't get much better in terms of sheer excitement and jaw-dropping cliffhangers. Willingham and Buckingham are simply without equal - there's nothing else out right now that even comes close to the high-quality work done by this incredible team.
And that's just the opening pages.
Not only does Willingham throw fun easter eggs into the script (Baba Yaga's hut, for example... I have vivid memories of being scared to death by that old children's story in kindergarten!), but Mark Buckingham stuffs the art chock-full of hidden details of his own (like Puss in Boots and Chicken Little in the hut's rampage scene).
I can't really come up with any major complaints for this issue without resorting to pointing out things like a period being left off at the end of a sentence. And believe me, even if there <i>was</i> anything to complain about, I'm not sure it would hurt my opinion of this issue. About the only gripe I have is that, in comparison with the rest of the issue, the surprise ending seemed belittled. Everything comes to a boil here in <i><b>Fables #24</b></i>, and given that DC's July previews show massive casualties in upcoming issues, there's so much going on plot-wise that Willingham has to clear up. And boy, does he ever! We're treated to revelations about Red Riding Hood, and even about the omnipresent Wooden Soldiers that are this story arc's namesake.
Buckingham does an amazing job of showing us just how brutal the Adversary's minions are willing to get in order to achieve their goals. If last issue's cliffhanger was any indication, things are gonna get real ugly soon, and we get a taste of this brutality here. As an added bonus, there are even some laugh-out-loud moments in the script. Seriously, folks: don't drink soda while you're reading this issue! (<i><b>Fables #24</b></i> + Dr Pepper = an embarassing scene at the local cafe - I'll let you imagine it.)
Perhaps the most defining moments of the issue, though, are when we finally get a few hints as to the Adversary's true identity. Willingham has carefully sidestepped around this for a while, but, as promised, there are some humongous clues dropped in this issue. I'm not certain of my own conjectures, but Willingham had said in a recent interview that readers who had been paying close attention would know who the Adversary was by issue #24... Let's wait and see what further developments occur in subsequent issues.
Buckingham's pencils are mind-bogglingly good; his creative use of facial expressions rival even those of Kevin Maguire, and he throws in the tiniest details just to see if you're paying attention (look at the phantom face in the "mirror, mirror, on the wall" in Snow White's office, or the snail with the cocktail unmbrella on page 5). While Lan Medina's pencils sufficed in the opening arcs on <i><b>Fables</b></i>, Buckingham takes the style to a whole new level, giving each character a distinct personality that perfectly coincides with the script.
If there's only one comic you buy for the rest of your mortal life, make damn sure that it's <i><b>Fables</b></i>! Stressing this any more would break the point in half; if you're intent on missing this outstanding series, then you're doing yourself - and the comic industry - heck, the universe! - a disservice. If only ComixFan's ratings went up to SIX stars...
'Nuff said.
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NicholasRogue
Apr 16, 2004, 12:46 am
Originally posted by Dan Porter
[BThis comic rocks, plain and simple... Read on if you don't believe me.
I sure hope nobody minds if I take a bit to plug this book.
I've got an excercise for those of you who aren't reading <i><b>Fables</b></i> yet. It's fairly simple, just repeat after me: "Fables is the best book <u>ever</u>. Fables is the best book <u>ever</u>." And I want you to repeat that until you're blue in the face. Because <i><b>Fables</b></i> is, quite frankly, the greatest comic creation since Wolfman and Perez went nuts with the DCU in 1985. Fables is entertainment at its best; you can't get much better in terms of sheer excitement and jaw-dropping cliffhangers. Willingham and Buckingham are simply without equal - there's nothing else out right now that even comes close to the high-quality work done by this incredible team.
[/B]
Took the words right out of my mouth. If you're not reading this book you should. Every afficionado of Fairy Tales will freakin' love this book. The artwork is beautiful. The story is awesome! We have some hints and I have my own suspect to whom the Adversary is....although I'm still unsure, b/c my guess still shocks me... anyway there was absolutely nothing wrong with this book. The cover by James Jean of Pinnochio actually looked like the little boy at the end of the Disney movie who became a real boy- fabulous. Seeing all the Fables gathered together in one room was a real treat.. Seeing Cinderella spout off cuss words also made me enjoy the hell out of this book. Snow is positively one of the best characters in comics today, her and Bigby are up there on the top of my list. Poor Blue...nuff said... Heads will be rolling...literally..the next two issues promise a massive slaughter of some of the fables...if Cinderella dies...I'll be sad!!!!:( And Snow's still pregnant... how long has she been pregnant. Anyone else suspect that Snow's water will break in the middle of all the massacre from Hugh, Drew, and Lou?
Suzene
Apr 16, 2004, 07:20 am
Originally posted by NicholasRogue
Poor Blue...nuff said...
Wait, what?! What about Blue? My shop didn't get its issues in on time (again). Argh! Cruel fate, why do you mock me?!
*goes off to chew on the walls for a while*
Suzene
bmack
Apr 16, 2004, 09:06 am
Does anyone know when the third tpb comes out? I have the first two and am very much looking forward to number 3!
~ The Mack
Lobster Johnson
Apr 16, 2004, 11:56 am
Man, I am so looking forward to this issue.
Just like every month. This book is on of the few comics that really gets me excited when I go to the store to by comics.
Originally posted by bmack
Does anyone know when the third tpb comes out? I have the first two and am very much looking forward to number 3!
The third TPB Storybook Love came out April 21st. So you should be able to get it already ;)
DeadmanWade
Apr 16, 2004, 01:19 pm
The trades of this book are going to be 5 issues each right?
NicholasRogue
Apr 16, 2004, 03:13 pm
Originally posted by Suzene
Wait, what?! What about Blue? My shop didn't get its issues in on time (again). Argh! Cruel fate, why do you mock me?!
*goes off to chew on the walls for a while*
Suzene
He was beaten badly, but he's alive
Anthony Zisa
Apr 16, 2004, 03:37 pm
Originally posted by DeadmanWade
The trades of this book are going to be 5 issues each right?
Storybook Love will collect eight issues, #11-18. The next trade, March of the Wooden Soldiers, will collect about nine issues (March, which runs from 19-22, and 24-27, plus the "Cinderella Libertine" story from #23). DC seems to be going with longer trades now, as the quick five issue trades served their purpose to get people into the book. (The same thing is happening with Y the Last Man, which is getting longer trades, too.)
Over at his website, Willingham claimed that the Adversary is fully revealed in this issue, if you're reading between the lines. So it looks like it's Gepetto, though I'm not entirely sure how that'll work out with the information we've already been given way back in #4. I'm willing to give it the benefit of the doubt, because the original identity got leaked, but Willingham's new Adversary doesn't entirely work for me, if the identity really was revealed in this issue.
--acz
James Groves
Apr 16, 2004, 06:15 pm
First off i'd like o say this is the very first Fables ive ever read. Its not yer typical superhero comic and the covers never really strike me so i generally pass the thing when im in my comic shop. Plus its never really advertised that much, but after seeing that its regarded as being one of the best comics going on today i gave it a go.
Well i have say i'm pleasantly suprised i reall liked it! Its a nice take on the Nursery rhyme/fairy tale business. It was cool lookin at characters i'd grown up knowing being used in this way.
Im a bit confused over a few things but im gonna pick up the trade paperbacks to really get into it.
The artworks nice, and suits the story very well.
I'd give it 7/8 out of 10.
Joel Phillips
Apr 16, 2004, 09:50 pm
Originally posted by Anthony Zisa
I'm willing to give it the benefit of the doubt, because the original identity got leaked, but Willingham's new Adversary doesn't entirely work for me, if the identity really was revealed in this issue.
Who was it going to be originally?
Stephanie Kay
Apr 16, 2004, 10:17 pm
I thought the Adversary was always going to be ''said person''- it makes sense to me- although all the clues have been thrown at once. Or so it felt for me.
Fables is a brilliant comic- it may be slightly difficult to start reading from this issue. But I think once people have read the entire ''wooden soldiers'' arc (and the ones before it)- that they could not like this book. It's flawless- seriously. Fables probably has the best ''cast'' in comics- legendary characters that Willingham has made his own.
Dan Porter
Apr 16, 2004, 10:29 pm
Actually, I thought it was Pinocchio.
Look at how Hugh Drew, and Lou said that they were made in the adversary's image. Obviously, this could also refer to Gepetto, but I think it would have more of a lasting impact if the Adversary had already infiltrated Fabletow and was living there, right under their noses.
Yeah, I know it's a stretch. But it's just my guess. Also, they mentioned at TheFourthRail.com that the scene up at the farm gave an indication as to the adversary's identity. I didn't see any clue there. Someone help me out?
BTW: What's the url for Willingham's site?
-DPorter
NicholasRogue
Apr 16, 2004, 10:30 pm
Snow and Bigby to me are two of the best characters in comics today.... I admire Snow so much b/c of issue #19 about her refusing to have an abortion...I think Willingham has made her so much better than that stupid annoying cutesy Disney versian.
Stephanie Kay
Apr 16, 2004, 10:54 pm
Totally agree with you NicholasRogue! Snow and Bigby are imo the best pair in comics.
Snow is my fave character in Fables- and probably out of eveything I'm reading at the moment. She's gone from deputy to leader to full combat, to being shot in the head to being pregnant and back round to deputy again. I'm not keen on Disney's Snow White- Willingham's Snow White puts Disney to shame.
And his supporting characters are brilliant also- ''Prince Not-So-Charming'', Cinderella, Rose Red, Boy Blue, Mr and Mrs Beast, Jack etc
BTW: What's the url for Willingham's site?
http://www.billwillingham.com/
Also, they mentioned at TheFourthRail.com that the scene up at the farm gave an indication as to the adversary's identity. I didn't see any clue there. Someone help me out?
The scene up at the farm- in the recent issue? Hmmm, I'm not sure either.....
Dan Porter
Apr 16, 2004, 11:02 pm
Here's the url for Randy's li'l comment: http://www.thefourthrail.com/reviews/snapjudgments/041204/snapshots.shtml
I believe he's referring to this ish.
Also, I just wanted to thank everyone for being so supportive of both my reviews and of this comic! I'm hoping to boost Fables into the top 50 by the end of '04. :cool:
-DPorter
Stephanie Kay
Apr 16, 2004, 11:34 pm
Here's the url for Randy's li'l comment
Oh I understand!! Dan- I think the farm scene reveals who is pretending to be Red Riding Hood.
Rose Red mentions someone called Baba Yaga- find more info about her- here (http://www.oldrussia.net/baba.html) - she is a Russian Fable- a witch who use to live in a hut which had chicken legs, who could change her appearance through magic and who ate human flesh as well. :) And what do we see that has woken up near the beginning- but a hut with chicken legs. I might be wrong but it seems to imply that RRH is Baba Yaga....
Al Harahap
Apr 16, 2004, 11:39 pm
Whether or not the adversary is Gepetto, Pinocchio himself, or Peter Pan, the Animal Farm scene was curiously put there for a reason.
I think it was strange that the very first page showed that the Animal Farm denizens were sleeping in everyday work positions as if cast upon by a sleeping spell, so could it be... Sleeping Beauty/Briar Rose? At the very least, perhaps she's an agent for the Adversary.
Dan Porter
Apr 16, 2004, 11:44 pm
UPDATE: I was just on Bill Willingham's site, and sure enough, Baba Yaga appears to have taken on the shell of Red Riding Hood.
An agent of the adversary, Al? I'm gonna have to go read Animal Farm again, now. That's an interesting theory. Maybe he dropped other clues in earlier issues? But where'd you get that Peter Pan is the Adversary? I don't understand how you came to that conclusion.
Oh, and this review has now officially been pimped directly to Willingham's site & email. :D
-DPorter
Stephanie Kay
Apr 16, 2004, 11:51 pm
Woohoo I like Baba Yaga. She's a real nasty piece of work
I kinda thought the first page was how it was because some of them had had a rough night with the chicken hut heh. And that it was early morning- and no-one on that shift had woken up yet. But now that you mention it......weird
Also, I like the sleeping theory- but Briar never put anyone to sleep- the 3 good fairies did......
Al Harahap
Apr 17, 2004, 12:06 am
Originally posted by Dan Porter
An agent of the adversary, Al? I'm gonna have to go read Animal Farm again, now. That's an interesting theory. Maybe he dropped other clues in earlier issues?
I was actually just talking about the Animal Farm scene in this issue.
But where'd you get that Peter Pan is the Adversary? I don't understand how you came to that conclusion.
I think that's the original leaked identity Anthony was talking about.
Originally posted by Redlantern00
Also, I like the sleeping theory- but Briar never put anyone to sleep- the 3 good fairies did......
She did in the 2-part "A Sharp Operation" in #12-13. Although, just like in that story, she needs others to help her. And I realise that it could as well be Baba Yaga herself who put the spell. I just thought it was curious that Willingham chose sleeping instead of, say, barriers, freezing, catatonia, etc.
Dan Porter
Apr 17, 2004, 02:02 am
Originally posted by Al Harahap
I just thought it was curious that Willingham chose sleeping instead of, say, barriers, freezing, catatonia, etc.
You make a valid point, Al.
It certainly does seem suspicious, though "barriers, freezing, catatonia, etc." would be a bit... obvious. I trust Willingham to be more subtle than that. (Although the scene in "A Sharp Operation" was hardly what you'd call subtle, seeing as the building was covered in thorny vines due to the effects of Rose's spell.) Hopefully there'll be lotsa stuff cleared up by the end of the arc. Willingham has been pretty good about making sure we're not left hanging for too long.
-DPorter
Carnage-DVS
Apr 17, 2004, 03:17 am
Love this series. Never know what comes next.
Suzene
Apr 17, 2004, 06:15 am
Just got the issue today -- and thanks NR; your kindly given info kept me from tackling my SO and ripping this week's haul out of his hands the moment he drove up (I managed to say hello first) -- and wow.
Dan, you need to work harder at pimping this comic -- your heart obviously isn't in it. ;)
I agree, Baba Yaga is almost certainly RRH. Blue is gonna need therapy. Lots and lots of therapy. I keep having Quest for Glory flashbacks as it is...*shudder* But it seems Red is still alive?! Wow...talk about rays of hope at unexpected moments!
Ah, and Prince Charming...turning Trusty John's injury into a PR moment. Somehow, though, he's still less slimey than Cole using the Adversary's encroachment to call off the elections.
It's the little things that make me love this book. I'm going to have to start giving out the trades as gifts.
Suzene
Captain America
Apr 17, 2004, 11:11 am
What's this comic about? Are there superheroes in it? :?
Al Harahap
Apr 17, 2004, 12:18 pm
Originally posted by Captain America
What's this comic about? Are there superheroes in it? :?
No, there are no superheroes in Fables -- at least not in the traditional sense of the word. No one has superpowers (though there are characters with magical abilities), no one wears colourful spandex, and no one is out to save innocent people from evil supervillains.
Fables is about fairy-tale characters driven away from their fable lands into our world by a mysterious adversary. They've now set up a small, secret society in modern day New York. Because of this, the writer has also brought forth more modernised versions of the characters. It stars a playboy scam artist Prince Charming, a foul-mouthed Cinderella, a gruff detective Bigby Wolf (Big Bad Wolf), a machine-gun-toting animal rights activist Goldilocks, among many others.
NicholasRogue
Apr 17, 2004, 01:50 pm
Originally posted by Al Harahap
No, there are no superheroes in Fables -- at least not in the traditional sense of the word. No one has superpowers (though there are characters with magical abilities), no one wears colourful spandex, and no one is out to save innocent people from evil supervillains.
Fables is about fairy-tale characters driven away from their fable lands into our world by a mysterious adversary. They've now set up a small, secret society in modern day New York. Because of this, the writer has also brought forth more modernised versions of the characters. It stars a playboy scam artist Prince Charming, a foul-mouthed Cinderella, a gruff detective Bigby Wolf (Big Bad Wolf), a machine-gun-toting animal rights activist Goldilocks, among many others.
And thank God too!!! I'm sick of super hero comics. At least these Fables can still kick ass without powers.Is Goldilocks still alive? I thought she bite the big one some time back? Foul-mouthed Cinderella- my favorite "What the bug-F*** is going on here"
Al Harahap
Apr 17, 2004, 02:14 pm
Originally posted by NicholasRogue
Is Goldilocks still alive? I thought she bite the big one some time back?
I think so. Snow or Bigby -- I can't remember which -- said something like, she's probably still alive because she's still a popular character in the mundy world. Unlike, say, Bluebeard, who probably did die forever.
Which then suggests that the attitudes of "our world" towards these characters in some way affect their mortality/immortality. I think that this is simply genius of Willingham.
Anthony Zisa
Apr 17, 2004, 04:08 pm
Originally posted by Al Harahap
Whether or not the adversary is Gepetto, Pinocchio himself, or Peter Pan, the Animal Farm scene was curiously put there for a reason.
I think it was strange that the very first page showed that the Animal Farm denizens were sleeping in everyday work positions as if cast upon by a sleeping spell, so could it be... Sleeping Beauty/Briar Rose? At the very least, perhaps she's an agent for the Adversary.
I don't think it could have been the work of Briar Rose because they wouldn't have woken up on their own, and Rose falls asleep herself in this situation. Besides, Mustard Pot Pete was up all night, and other Farm Fables were up trying to keep Baba Yaga's hut in check, so if Rose had been involved, everyone would have slept.
--acz
NicholasRogue
Apr 17, 2004, 04:57 pm
Originally posted by Al Harahap
I think so. Snow or Bigby -- I can't remember which -- said something like, she's probably still alive because she's still a popular character in the mundy world. Unlike, say, Bluebeard, who probably did die forever.
Which then suggests that the attitudes of "our world" towards these characters in some way affect their mortality/immortality. I think that this is simply genius of Willingham.
Good thing they got Blue then...he's not quite as popular in our world... the Fables I think who really have immortality b/c of their popularity in our world are - Jack, Snow- as seen before, Cinderella, Bigby, Briar Rose, Prince Charming, Pinnochio, Goldilocks, the real Red Riding Hood, hmmm.... I think King Cole could bite the big one along with Bluebeard if he ever got wacked.
Dan Porter
Apr 17, 2004, 09:20 pm
HUGE Update: A friend at work theorized this: He thinks it could 1) be Bigby, having "tasted" the flesh of his comrades in exchange for their freedom. Bigby being the Adv. would be a huge twist as it would mean that Bluebeard was right all along. How cool would that be? *OR* 2) He says that maybe everyone in Fabletown knows who it is, and he/she is living right there among them, but they can't do or sy anything about it because it's pre-amnesty.
But that's just what he thinks. Keeping in mind, of course, that all this is just speculation.
-DPorter
NicholasRogue
Apr 17, 2004, 11:50 pm
Originally posted by Dan Porter
HUGE Update: A friend at work theorized this: He thinks it could 1) be Bigby, having "tasted" the flesh of his comrades in exchange for their freedom. Bigby being the Adv. would be a huge twist as it would mean that Bluebeard was right all along. How cool would that be? *OR* 2) He says that maybe everyone in Fabletown knows who it is, and he/she is living right there among them, but they can't do or sy anything about it because it's pre-amnesty.
But that's just what he thinks. Keeping in mind, of course, that all this is just speculation.
-DPorter
That's twisted......if that would be true....Snow's baby---- :O Devil child!!!!
Zeb Aslam
Apr 19, 2004, 04:03 am
Originally posted by Dan Porter
HUGE Update: A friend at work theorized this: He thinks it could 1) be Bigby, having "tasted" the flesh of his comrades in exchange for their freedom. Bigby being the Adv. would be a huge twist as it would mean that Bluebeard was right all along. How cool would that be? *OR* 2) He says that maybe everyone in Fabletown knows who it is, and he/she is living right there among them, but they can't do or sy anything about it because it's pre-amnesty.
But that's just what he thinks. Keeping in mind, of course, that all this is just speculation.
-DPorter
Ummm, interesting theory, but I cannot think this. While the first might apply, the second cannot be true, because amnesty or not, don't you think all the Fables would fear for their very lives if that were the case? I don't think that knowledge exists...a select few might know, but everyone knowing and going about as if nothing is wrong...no, just no. But, damn...this book is incredble!! I'm gonna have to start buying trades to try to hook people onto this...
James Groves
Apr 19, 2004, 04:40 pm
Just read the trade paper back volume 2 of the fabes (animal Farm) and i absolutley loved it. Brilliant. Id give it 9 out of 10.
Just hope my comic shop can get in volume 1 and any later volumes too.
NicholasRogue
Apr 19, 2004, 05:27 pm
Originally posted by pokerman
Just read the trade paper back volume 2 of the fabes (animal Farm) and i absolutley loved it. Brilliant. Id give it 9 out of 10.
Just hope my comic shop can get in volume 1 and any later volumes too.
Animal Farm rocks ! I love Reynard the Fox!
hexx
Apr 19, 2004, 06:40 pm
They should rename this comic to The Best Damn Comic Period uh copyright laws aside... Fables consistently gives me my money's worth and i've been able to turn a bunch of people on it by giving them the first trade to read. Question: What noticeble fables haven't we seen yet that you think are gonna come out of this story line? Peter Pan? The Lumber Jack who got Bigby back in the day? Gulliver? Also is this Jack the same Jack be nimble? or Jack from Jack and Jill? Hanzel and Gretel are they Dead or Alive?
Hands down the comic i look foward to the most right now, even more so than the X-titles i've gotten for years..so quick pick it up if you haven't already!
:bite:
--Hexx
Anthony Zisa
Apr 19, 2004, 08:08 pm
Originally posted by hexx
Also is this Jack the same Jack be nimble? or Jack from Jack and Jill?
Jack, like Bigby and Charming, is an amalgamation of various Fables. He's likely the nimble Jack, as well as any other Jack of note that fits into his overall Fable profile (scheming, quick, agile in both a physical and mental manner). It would be quite humorous if Jill showed up, though.
--acz
Al Harahap
Apr 19, 2004, 08:54 pm
Originally posted by hexx
Also is this Jack the same Jack be nimble? or Jack from Jack and Jill?
Bigby asks Jack if he's been climbing beanstalks again in #1. So he's also that of "Jack and the Beanstalk," if not, as the primary persona/influence.
NicholasRogue
Apr 19, 2004, 10:57 pm
Don't the three baddies (Hugh, Drew, Lou) call him Jack Hornear? As in Little Jack Corner? wait I think that's wrong- he's Beanstalk Jack...with Snow its more complicated, b/c in the original Snow White + 7 dwarves - she's a princess and her mother dies and father remarries, but with Snow White and Rose Red- the girls live in a cabin in the woods with their mother- eh... would like to see how Willingham could explain this situation.
hexx
May 7, 2004, 01:20 pm
My new theory is that Mustard Pot Pete is the Adversary's spy think about it..huh huh yup that's my new theory!!! next weeks Fables looks like there's going to be Fables Farm and City folk -v- Hugh Drew and Lou but also Bigby -v- a Buncha wooden soldiers at the Farm ..sweet!
:bite:
Hexx
Kordey
May 8, 2004, 06:49 pm
Indeed,one of the best books on the market right now. I bought the 3rd trade a few days ago an went through all of them once again. What a thrill! Flawless and fresh story with superb artwork (I'd like to mention Mr. Medina's contributon - with Leialoha's inking those would be my favourite parts of the serial, with tip of my hat to Mr. Buckingham).. I collect (and read them, so I'm not real collector) comic books for years and this is one of those stories I was sorry I didn't put my paws on. You don't have idea what happyness is to be blessed with such brilliant story as an artist. Whatever, judging by very weak response , comparing with mostly lame super hero books out there,
people don't like realy good stuff, or lost their ability to recognize it; but that is not their fault...
Anyway, once again congrats to "Fables" creative team!
IGOR
Lord_magneto
May 24, 2004, 07:38 am
Wow Kordey, at first I had sympathy for you, but now I see you really like writing people off into one stereotype or another. Is it possible people donīt like some books simply because they donīt like them? are everyone sheep except the people agreeing with you? do you tag super-heroes comics as bad simply because the stigma? mybe one day you'll learn, that some people have diffrent opinions than you do, that dosen't make them stupid, or ignorant, or brain-washed or ships, it simply means that they are not like you in their preferences.
smartguy1600
May 25, 2004, 01:51 am
I think it works like this:
Jack is a personification of a Jack from several titles:
Jack and the beanstalk
Jack be quick
Jack Horner(Sat in a corner...yadda yadda yadda)
Perhaps Jack and Jill, not quite sure on this one, though according to the story he broke his crown...or cracked his skull open so...who knows?
As for Snow White: For those of you going off of the Disney film, well theres a bit of explaining to do:
As a child, Snow white was in fact a princess, with sister Rose Red, when Snow White became older, her stepmother became jealous of her fabulous looks and drove her from the castle, asking the woodsman to kill her.
This is the point when she found the 7 dwarves and the rest of the story goes on from there, she then meets Prince Charming and they live unhappily ever after.
At least im pretty sure how that works.
Finally, as for Prince Charming, im sure most of you realize hes the same prince charming from Snow White, Sleeping Buety, Cinderella, and many others as well, and Handsome Prince youve seen in any story tends to be him.
I think thats about it for now...any other misconceptions of character?
Dave Harris
May 25, 2004, 02:13 am
Hmmm, something that's just occurred to me looking back at the issue...did anyone else think that Riding Hood/Baba Yaga's one final use for Boy Blue should have been a little more vicious than just returning him along with the ultimatum? That seemed like a weak use for him to me, and so maybe that wasn't his final use. Maybe there's a reason Red Riding Hood wasn't there in person to deliver the ultimatum; maybe that wasn't Boy Blue. Maybe his final use was to get a(nother) spy into Fabletown. And if Pinochio really is the Adversary, or any sort of agent, then this would be the perfect way to extract him safely; his place as a spy is taken up by the shape-changing Baba Yaga so that he can go back to the Adversary's army under the guise of doing so to save the town.
So, that's what went through my head after looking over some speculation here. Tear it apart.
James Groves
May 25, 2004, 03:27 pm
Originally posted by Kordey
Indeed,one of the best books on the market right now. I bought the 3rd trade a few days ago an went through all of them once again. What a thrill! Flawless and fresh story with superb artwork (I'd like to mention Mr. Medina's contributon - with Leialoha's inking those would be my favourite parts of the serial, with tip of my hat to Mr. Buckingham).. I collect (and read them, so I'm not real collector) comic books for years and this is one of those stories I was sorry I didn't put my paws on. You don't have idea what happyness is to be blessed with such brilliant story as an artist. Whatever, judging by very weak response , comparing with mostly lame super hero books out there,
people don't like realy good stuff, or lost their ability to recognize it; but that is not their fault...
Anyway, once again congrats to "Fables" creative team!
IGOR
LOL - Like an artist scorned!!! Man i bet this guys peed.
Lame super hero books - please explain in more detail ;-)
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